2019 Derby Trail: Bourbon War brings Belmont field to 10

[Kasept]

Country House ruled out for Preakness: http://live.drf.com/nuggets/47990-br...ng-to-get-sick

BREAKING NEWS: Country House out of Preakness, per Mott, who said he's coughing, "acting like he's going to get sick"

Kentucky Derby winner Country House will not run in the Preakness Stakes, trainer Bill Mott said Tuesday, after Country House started to show signs of becoming ill at Churchill Downs, where he has remained following his Derby victory on Saturday.

"He developed a little bit of a cough this morning," Mott said by telephone. "He appetite is good. He doesn't have a fever. But he's coughing. We drew blood. He's acting like he's going to get sick. He's off the training list, and if he's off the training list he's off the Preakness list.

"It's probably a little viral thing," Mott said. "Hopefully it doesn't develop into anything serious. Usually when something like this happens a horse misses a couple weeks of training. He's not seriously sick right now. But he's showing indications that something is going on."

[Rupert Pupkin]

No Maximum Security, no Country House, and no Code of Honor. So not a single one of the 1-2-3 finishers from the Derby will run in the Preakness. That has to be the first time this has happened.

[Bruinguybry]

Going to get all the "new" fans with that news. I wish they'd quit running that annoying preakness commercial while im trying to watch my bruins play.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Going to get all the "new" fans with that news. I wish they'd quit running that annoying preakness commercial while im trying to watch my bruins play.

Well MS needs time off because Servis’s “program” requires 30-45 days between starts.

Hay and oats.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Well MS needs time off because Servis’s “program” requires 30-45 days between starts.

Hay and oats.

Can someone explain the time frame for me? Does the extra time allow a trainer to give PEDs to a horse that increase muscle, etc. but are out of the system by the time the horse races next?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by moses

Can someone explain the time frame for me? Does the extra time allow a trainer to give PEDs to a horse that increase muscle, etc. but are out of the system by the time the horse races next?

If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.

Wrong

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No Maximum Security, no Country House, and no Code of Honor. So not a single one of the 1-2-3 finishers from the Derby will run in the Preakness. That has to be the first time this has happened.

I wonder if Shug McGaughey will have a rethink with Code of Honor.

At any rate, in 1985 the 1-2 finishers Spend A Buck (Jersey Derby) and the ill-fated Stephan's Odyssey (Peter Pan) opted out of the Preakness. Show horse Chief's Crown started and was tagged at the wire by Derby also-ran Tank's Prospect.

[Bruinguybry]

You have guys like baffert,beyer etc etc etc well respected guys saying it was bullshit. It cost me north of 5k and it was and will be horrible decison. The worst being that **** statement the **** stewards prepared after waiting ****ing 23 minutes to make the WRONG decison if their trying to "grow" the game with younger fans wellyou couldn't of handled that any worse. Younger people myslef included don't have the patience to be sitting around waiting for three clowns to make a **** decison. And now their promoting the **** of this 80oclm on May 18th (i mean the preakness stakes) GTFO

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

You have guys like baffert,beyer etc etc etc well respected guys saying it was bullshit. It cost me north of 5k and it was and will be horrible decison. The worst being that **** statement the **** stewards prepared after waiting ****ing 23 minutes to make the WRONG decison if their trying to "grow" the game with younger fans wellyou couldn't of handled that any worse. Younger people myslef included don't have the patience to be sitting around waiting for three clowns to make a **** decison. And now their promoting the **** of this 80oclm on May 18th (i mean the preakness stakes) GTFO

Just as many respected people think it was the right call. How many days are you going to carry on?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Just as many respected people think it was the right call. How many days are you going to carry on?

Just imagine how hard he would have taken Smarty Jones's defeat in the Belmont.

[Bruinguybry]

There's a reason the selections board has dwindled down to about a handful of guys since I've been following (2015) the game is in a death spiral and the few fans they've gained in the past few years are gone. Short of running keenenlad and Saratoga all summer there's no new fans.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Country House ruled out for Preakness: http://live.drf.com/nuggets/47990-br...ng-to-get-sick

BREAKING NEWS: Country House out of Preakness, per Mott, who said he's coughing, "acting like he's going to get sick"

Kentucky Derby winner Country House will not run in the Preakness Stakes, trainer Bill Mott said Tuesday, after Country House started to show signs of becoming ill at Churchill Downs, where he has remained following his Derby victory on Saturday.

"He developed a little bit of a cough this morning," Mott said by telephone. "He appetite is good. He doesn't have a fever. But he's coughing. We drew blood. He's acting like he's going to get sick. He's off the training list, and if he's off the training list he's off the Preakness list.

"It's probably a little viral thing," Mott said. "Hopefully it doesn't develop into anything serious. Usually when something like this happens a horse misses a couple weeks of training. He's not seriously sick right now. But he's showing indications that something is going on."

I've heard it's more of a big choke than a little cough...You know, the notion of being exposed and all....

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I've heard it's more of a big choke than a little cough...You know, the notion of being exposed and all....

Can you be exposed when you were 70-1 and ran maybe the 3rd or 4th best race when you got moved up?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Can you be exposed when you were 70-1 and ran maybe the 3rd or 4th best race when you got moved up?

Hossy, how many sides of this are you going to take? First it's "WoW and LRT were completely compromised, thus were cost placings, thus the takedown AND placing of MS to 17th was warranted.

Now, the interference had nothing to do with CR's trip and he was the 3rd or 4th best?

C'mon Man.

It's one or the other.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Hossy, how many sides of this are you going to take? First it's "WoW and LRT were completely compromised, thus were cost placings, thus the takedown AND placing of MS to 17th was warranted.

Now, the interference had nothing to do with CR's trip and he was the 3rd or 4th best?

C'mon Man.

It's one or the other.

How is it one or the other? I’ve been very consistent. I’ve maintained throughout that CH wasn’t impacted. But he finished 2nd. So he was moved up because MS fouled WoW and LRT and cost them their chance at 2nd-4th.

It’s pretty obvious MS ran a better race than CH. I thought ground loss considered so did Game Winner and maybe WoW.

You’ve watched enough races to know very often the “best” horse doesn’t always win.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How is it one or the other? I’ve been very consistent. I’ve maintained throughout that CH wasn’t impacted. But he finished 2nd. So he was moved up because MS fouled WoW and LRT and cost them their chance at 2nd-4th.

It’s pretty obvious MS ran a better race than CH. I thought ground loss considered so did Game Winner and maybe WoW.

You’ve watched enough races to know very often the “best” horse doesn’t always win.

Okay, I’ll play.
In your estimation, and considering each trip on it’s own merit - What would have been the order of finish barring the infraction? If you say Country House would have been in the super, I know you’re jus’ trollin’

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Okay, I’ll play.
In your estimation, and considering each trip on it’s own merit - What would have been the order of finish barring the infraction? If you say Country House would have been in the super, I know you’re jus’ trollin’

Just out of curiosity, when did the expected order of finish, a VERY slippery slope to ask Stewards to decide by the way, become the deciding factor?

If War of Will ( I hate abbreviations of horse's names ) had gone down, do you think a disqualification would have been warranted?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Okay, I’ll play.
In your estimation, and considering each trip on it’s own merit - What would have been the order of finish barring the infraction? If you say Country House would have been in the super, I know you’re jus’ trollin’

I guess I’m confused then. What are you saying exactly?

You’re agreeing and disagreeing with things I say but think I’m trolling?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Can you be exposed when you’re 65-1 with no hope and embarrassingly outclassed by the actual winner, but get put up by a technicality because you claimed a foul when you were never touched and now have to “Walk the Walk”?

FTFY & Yes