6/9 (BEL): 150th Belmont Stakes Day

MaTH716 · #1 05-30-2018, 08:21 AM

No one talking about Mind Your Biscuits? I guess you need to worry about the Dubai bounce, but he was the only horse to make up and ground that day in Dubai.

blackthroatedwind · #2 05-30-2018, 08:27 AM

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No one talking about Mind Your Biscuits? I guess you need to worry about the Dubai bounce, but he was the only horse to make up and ground that day in Dubai.

He also saved more ground than the second and third finishers. Speed track or rail track?

By the way, none of that means he's not a major threat to win the Met.

MaTH716 · #3 05-30-2018, 08:43 AM

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He also saved more ground than the second and third finishers. Speed track or rail track?

By the way, none of that means he's not a major threat to win the Met.

Andy, I don't think he saved any ground. He was 3 deep for most of the race and finished widest of all.

blackthroatedwind · #4 05-30-2018, 08:55 AM

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Andy, I don't think he saved any ground. He was 3 deep for most of the race and finished widest of all.

I believe according to Trakus he covered less ground than the second and third horses.

The second horse should have won. He got a dreadful ride. He's a rocket ship and his rider allowed a much slower horse to outrun him early while he set up shop outside of him. Roy H's rider couldn't get him wide and in the clear fast enough. It was only a two million dollar race. Why bother paying attention to how the track was playing?

Not knocking Mind Your Biscuits. He's pretty amazing. However, that race was very poorly ridden by his chief competitors. It seems like this has been ignored because we were all sort of shocked by Mind Your Biscuit's late run.

MaTH716 · #5 05-30-2018, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I believe according to Trakus he covered less ground than the second and third horses.

The second horse should have won. He got a dreadful ride. He's a rocket ship and his rider allowed a much slower horse to outrun him early while he set up shop outside of him. Roy H's rider couldn't get him wide and in the clear fast enough. It was only a two million dollar race. Why bother paying attention to how the track was playing?

Not knocking Mind Your Biscuits. He's pretty amazing. However, that race was very poorly ridden by his chief competitors. It seems like this has been ignored because we were all sort of shocked by Mind Your Biscuit's late run.

This is fair. I would admit discounting everything else that happened in the race because I was so awestruck of the way he closed into a track that I perceived to be speed biased.

moses · #6 05-30-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I believe according to Trakus he covered less ground than the second and third horses.

The second horse should have won. He got a dreadful ride. He's a rocket ship and his rider allowed a much slower horse to outrun him early while he set up shop outside of him. Roy H's rider couldn't get him wide and in the clear fast enough. It was only a two million dollar race. Why bother paying attention to how the track was playing?

Not knocking Mind Your Biscuits. He's pretty amazing. However, that race was very poorly ridden by his chief competitors. It seems like this has been ignored because we were all sort of shocked by Mind Your Biscuit's late run.

I believe Desormeaux said Roy H stumbled at the start and I guess he used the horse up to make up for that. Haven’t really watched to confirm.