3/31 (GP): Derby (G1), Oaks (G2), Rampart, Orchid, Appleton (G3's)

[Mike]

May not be much solace to those who keyed Union Rags today, but this Florida Derby result was just a positive for horse race players. The top two horses on most lists lost today(El Padrino and Union Rags), which merely opens everything up, raising the odds of those two horses on Derby day, as well as opening up the possibilities of many other runners come that day. The Derby, folks, will be wide open!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Mike

May not be much solace to those who keyed Union Rags today, but this Florida Derby result was just a positive for horse race players. The top two horses on most lists lost today(El Padrino and Union Rags), which merely opens everything up, raising the odds of those two horses on Derby day, as well as opening up the possibilities of many other runners come that day. The Derby, folks, will be wide open!

I never understood the love for El Pyrodino. Today did nothing to diminish him.

[hockey2315]

Union Rags might be even more overbet off that "trip" today than he would've been with a win. . . Can't wait to play against him. 95 Beyer for the winner, by the way.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Union Rags might be even more overbet off that "trip" today than he would've been with a win. . . Can't wait to play against him. 95 Beyer for the winner, by the way.

I agree with you on this, I think he will be an underlay and is overhyped. I'm not sure he wants the classic distances either which makes me even more against him.

[NTamm1215]

If the Derby winner ran today at GP, then I can plan on cashing no tickets right now.

Zo Impressive will be very tough in the Acorn. Like her sister, I get the feeling she's going to be best at 7-8fs.

[pointman]

I don't want anyone out the Florida Derby either at this point. I don't see how Take Charge Indy could win the Derby with that style unless they restrict the Derby to the Aqueduct winter jockey colony.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

I don't want anyone out the Florida Derby either at this point. I don't see how Take Charge Indy could win the Derby with that style unless they restrict the Derby to the Aqueduct winter jockey colony.

I might throw a couple tickets and key Hansen/Take Charge Indy in 3rd/4th spots as I sense they hook up and fade in the stretch.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Union Rags might be even more overbet off that "trip" today than he would've been with a win. . . Can't wait to play against him. 95 Beyer for the winner, by the way.

I agree with you.

And a lot of people are also trying to reach and say that the track was speed biased.

Union Rags got a lot of hype for a win over the turtle like News Pending and Discreet Dancer -- who had missed a workout before that race and was subsquently removed from the TC Trail. That was the lone two-turn dirt route on the card -- so no figure could be trusted -- and a lot of figure makers I thought gave UR the benefit of the doubt.

Not that Union Rags couldn't turn the tables on the top two from the FLA Derby -- but he keeps getting the benefit of the doubt from all angles with every race.