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Old 12-04-2011, 02:13 PM
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I'd rather see whatever happens betwixt LSU and Ok State than see another field goal suckfest.
i like to think it wouldn't be...but who knows?
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:52 PM
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How does a team who failed to qualify for a confrence championship game get to play in the national title game?

I really don't care if they're one of the two best teams... or the best one-loss team.

If you finish 2nd out of 6 in a division of the SEC -- you have no business playing for a national title.

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Old 12-04-2011, 10:28 PM
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How does a team who failed to qualify for a confrence championship game get to play in the national title game?

I really don't care if they're one of the two best teams... or the best one-loss team.

If you finish 2nd out of 6 in a division of the SEC -- you have no business playing for a national title.

Stupid.
Dont you know the sec is far superior to all other conferences and all other teams. No non sec teams would stay within 14 of lsu or alabama.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:29 PM
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Folks, look on the bright side. This ends the SEC's perfect record in the BCS championship game.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:09 AM
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How does a team who failed to qualify for a confrence championship game get to play in the national title game?

I really don't care if they're one of the two best teams... or the best one-loss team.

If you finish 2nd out of 6 in a division of the SEC -- you have no business playing for a national title.

Stupid.
the system is supposed to produce the two best teams for the title game. if they're the best two, and it seems you agree that they are, what more is there to say?
should alabama be punished because it's in the same conference and division as lsu? that seems somewhat unfair, doesn't it? it wouldn't be right to exclude a team solely because of where it plays. if it's the 2nd best team, it's the 2nd best team.
lsu is the only no loss team. bama has one, in ot-which gives it a better record than any other team in the top 20 except okla state. however, bama's ot loss was to lsu, whereas ok st lost in ot to iowa state, who has a 6-6 record.
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the system is supposed to produce the two best teams for the title game. if they're the best two, and it seems you agree that they are, what more is there to say?
should alabama be punished because it's in the same conference and division as lsu?
Certainly they appear the two best teams -- but that's the system that the conference championship game should produce.

Why did Georgia need to play LSU last week? Boise State ran circles around them.

The National Title game should be determined by an 8-team tournament where each conference is represented by a single champion.

SEC, ACC, Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12. Big East are the six automatic confrences whose champion always gets represented.

The other two playoff slots go to the two highest ranked Champions among: Conference USA, Mountain West (TCU), WAC (Boise State), MAC (they have a good team once every 5 years) or an Independant such as Notre Dame.

The regular season would be more important -- the confrence championship games would all be more important -- and the playoff would be interesting.

Seed the highest against the lowest. 1 hosts 8. 2 hosts 7. 3 hosts 6. 4 hosts 5. Championship game played at select venue.

Pretty. Fucl<ing. Simple.
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Certainly they appear the two best teams -- but that's the system that the conference championship game should produce.

Why did Georgia need to play LSU last week? Boise State ran circles around them.

The National Title game should be determined by an 8-team tournament where each conference is represented by a single champion.

SEC, ACC, Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12. Big East are the six automatic confrences whose champion always gets represented.

The other two playoff slots go to the two highest ranked Champions among: Conference USA, Mountain West (TCU), WAC (Boise State), MAC (they have a good team once every 5 years) or an Independant such as Notre Dame.

The regular season would be more important -- the confrence championship games would all be more important -- and the playoff would be interesting.

Seed the highest against the lowest. 1 hosts 8. 2 hosts 7. 3 hosts 6. 4 hosts 5. Championship game played at select venue.

Pretty. Fucl<ing. Simple.
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Without a playoff, a 1 loss SEC team deserves to play for it period over any other 1 loss team. Boise State, Wisconsin and Oklahoma State all had their shots and blew it...end of story. Short field goal miss...again, Hail mary's two straight weeks, Iowa freaking State. The two best teams are playing for the National Championship which is the design of the BCS. It got it right. There needs to be an 8 or 16 team playoff however like all other NCAA divisions.
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:54 AM
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Without a playoff, a 1 loss SEC team deserves to play for it period over any other 1 loss team. Boise State, Wisconsin and Oklahoma State all had their shots and blew it...end of story. Short field goal miss...again, Hail mary's two straight weeks, Iowa freaking State. The two best teams are playing for the National Championship which is the design of the BCS. It got it right. There needs to be an 8 or 16 team playoff however like all other NCAA divisions.

i can see a valid argument for okla st getting in over alabama. but people have gone to the lowest common denominator on the two teams single loss. bama to lsu, os to a 6-6 team. but people need to look at the overall schedule of both teams.
did they still choose correctly? computers had ok st higher based on strength of schedule.

wisc lost twice.
boise st needs a tougher schedule. honestly, i was hoping boise would go perfect and come to la for the title game so lsu could shut that crap up once and for all..
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Certainly they appear the two best teams -- but that's the system that the conference championship game should produce.

Why did Georgia need to play LSU last week? Boise State ran circles around them.

The National Title game should be determined by an 8-team tournament where each conference is represented by a single champion.

SEC, ACC, Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12. Big East are the six automatic confrences whose champion always gets represented.

The other two playoff slots go to the two highest ranked Champions among: Conference USA, Mountain West (TCU), WAC (Boise State), MAC (they have a good team once every 5 years) or an Independant such as Notre Dame.

The regular season would be more important -- the confrence championship games would all be more important -- and the playoff would be interesting.

Seed the highest against the lowest. 1 hosts 8. 2 hosts 7. 3 hosts 6. 4 hosts 5. Championship game played at select venue.

Pretty. Fucl<ing. Simple.
ga played because they won the sec east. the sec is divided into two divisions, much like other conferences. it doesn't always produce the two best teams in the conference in the championship game, much like other conferences...witness oregon vs ucla the other day for example.
the system you advocate above would preclude alabama from playing. how would that be 'fair'? some conferences produce teams who don't stack up vs other conferences ( southern miss anyone? big east winner?), which would mean some champs who don't belong in the finals would be in automatically while deserving teams ( such as alabama, who wouldn't be in the finals as you suggest them) would be left out.

currently, the system brings in the top teams in the bowls, conference championships notwithstanding.

the current system isn't perfect; but neither is what you just suggested. every game currently does count, which is why okla state is on the outside looking in.
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