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Old 06-10-2011, 05:48 PM
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Shackleford is 16-1 in the early betting... what?
Odds reflect on-track betting only.
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:50 PM
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Odds reflect on-track betting only.
Good to know. Thanks. But the double does not. And the double is 2x the payoff to Shackleford as Master of Hounds.
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Old 06-10-2011, 06:20 PM
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Way too early to think those early wagers are an indicator of race day odds; but it sure shows the media splurge and expert picks of Master of Hounds have dropped his odds, and at the seemingly sole expense of the disrespected Shackleford.

If it's wet, I'll box Shackleford and Mucho Macho Man
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Windward Islands for the upset in the Manhattan.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:51 AM
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"Local" early odds...

1. Master of Hounds, 5-1
2. Stay Thirsty, 12-1
3. Ruler On Ice, 42-1
4. Santiva, 8-1
5. Brilliant Speed, 9-1
6. Nehro, 5-1
7. Monzon, 55-1
8. Prime Cut, 18-1
9. Animal Kingdom, 5-2
10. Mucho Macho Man, 6-1
11. Isn’t He Perfect, 39-1
12. Shackleford, 16-1
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:02 AM
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"Local" early odds...

1. Master of Hounds, 5-1
2. Stay Thirsty, 12-1
3. Ruler On Ice, 42-1
4. Santiva, 8-1
5. Brilliant Speed, 9-1
6. Nehro, 5-1
7. Monzon, 55-1
8. Prime Cut, 18-1
9. Animal Kingdom, 5-2
10. Mucho Macho Man, 6-1
11. Isn’t He Perfect, 39-1
12. Shackleford, 16-1

I think this will change significantly ( esp Shackelford ) as it represents "on-track" only. A better indicator may be the Brooklyn/Belmont DD will pays where Shackleford is just over 2x's Animal Kingdom's price, and Master of Hounds is the same will-pay as Animal Kingdom


http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42640
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:06 AM
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It also represents NYRA Rewards.

It really depends on how big the pool is. Early betting at CD is local only, and though I thought it changed, many here said it doesn't that much.

I just cannot believe that Shackleford will be 16-1 come post time, especially if it's wet.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:40 PM
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I give up, its been a very frustrating Belmont Saturday for me. Only a Master of Hounds win will save my weekend
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