NFL Coaching Changes: Who Should, Who Should Go

[clyde]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Probably not a lot when considering the wealth of the owners involved in Schott's career but when the NFL wasn't the cash machine that it is today, before PSL's and the seas of luxury boxes, the market and the wealth of the owner had a huge impact on a team's ability to sign players and stay competitive.

Not to say smaller markets couldn't compete or even thrive but there is no doubt that there was a disadvantage.

At that time Modell was pretty well loaded up...really.

You had a wrong moment that did not include making sense.


But you're very up on your stuff, so you can get by with some of these....and I still have no likeness of your boo bees.







Just thayin'.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by clyde

At that time Modell was pretty well loaded up...really.

You had a wrong moment that did not include making sense.


But you're very up on your stuff, so you can get by with some of these....and I still have no likeness of your boo bees.







Just thayin'.

It was a wrong moment I admit but didn't modell leave over money? The browns were broke and the city stiffed modell on the stadium. He had no choice really. Marty was long gone in 95 so I still had a wrong moment.

I think Marty was an excellent coach that got some bad breaks.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It was a wrong moment I admit but didn't modell leave over money? The browns were broke and the city stiffed modell on the stadium. He had no choice really. Marty was long gone in 95 so I still had a wrong moment.

I think Marty was an excellent coach that got some bad breaks.

Yes he did,but MS left in '87 after taking over in '83....mid season I think.Modell had no money problems then...at all.At least here,MS benefitted from the front office obtaining the right players...and insome cases,asst. coaches.

You could have coached those guys to the same level.


So wrong AND no sense.....ha-ha!




I didn't think he was anything special at all.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by clyde

Yes he did,but MS left in '87 after taking over in '83....mid season I think.Modell had no money problems then...at all.At least here,MS benefitted from the front office obtaining the right players...and insome cases,asst. coaches.

You could have coached those guys to the same level.


So wrong AND no sense.....ha-ha!




I didn't think he was anything special at all.

Actually it was -84 mid season and he left after '88. Remember they won their first game under Carson in Pittsburgh 51-0 in '89 and we had the genius coach we so desperately needed!! His genius faded very quickly through the season but they still squeaked into the playoffs, then in '90 Bud went 3-13 and didn't last the year. Then you know who came in '91! and we were introduced to "diminishing skills". (he was actually right about that.) Marty was without question the 2nd best Cleveland coach in my lifetime. I was born in the Blanton Collier era so he obviously was number 1. After him, Marty was easily the next best. Forrest Gregg went to a Super Bowl when he left Cleveland and Belichick won 3, but in Cleveland not that good.

[clyde]

I do these things off the top...so I'll give to your '84 and '88.Now that you say it..I do recall '88 was his last.

MS had the best players after the 60's.The players seem to be the important mix...to me...but his records stands.I just didn't like him and saw no great traights.Infante kinda helped,too.

And Carson...He got the team as they were going down.. age caught up with it..That team changed drasticly in just 2 years.You know what's happened since.