2/20 (FG): Risen Star (G2); Mineshaft, FG H., SBD (G3's)

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

While he very well might prove he belongs in the field - he's not a horse with any chance at winning the Ky Derby.

I realize he was stretching out from 6f today - and has a right to improve with the foundation todays race will provide .... but he got a free ride on the lead today and still only managed to finish 10.5 lengths in front of 10th place finisher Hotep...who did heroically happen to beat a pair of 100/1+ shots home.

So you think he wants to route, but you don't think he belongs in the Derby or with the other classy 3 year olds? Exactly what would you do with him then if you're not going to sprint him?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Betsy

So you think he wants to route, but you don't think he belongs in the Derby or with the other classy 3 year olds? Exactly what would you do with him then if you're not going to sprint him?

A.) There's very little money to be made sprinting him.

B.) There's A LOT of money to be made routing him.

C.) He is a better horse routing than sprinting because he has proven repeatedly he can rate and paces are slower in routes.

D.) You are make believing that he has distance limitations because of how he ran one race when he battled Super Saver into defeat and came up empty late in a sneaky good effort.

E.) The best shot he has to win a Triple Crown race is probably the Belmont Stakes. If he gets a free ride on the lead like Da Tara got - he will run like a horse who has been begging to run 12 furlongs his whole life. Also, a lot of the true speed to pressure him will be off the triple crown trial by that time.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

A.) There's very little money to be made sprinting him.

B.) There's A LOT of money to be made routing him.

C.) He is a better horse routing than sprinting because he has proven repeatedly he can rate and paces are slower in routes.

D.) You are make believing that he has distance limitations because of how he ran one race when he battled Super Saver into defeat and came up empty late in a sneaky good effort.

E.) The best shot he has to win a Triple Crown race is probably the Belmont Stakes. If he gets a free ride on the lead like Da Tara got - he will run like a horse who has been begging to run 12 furlongs his whole life. Also, a lot of the true speed to pressure him will be off the triple crown trial by that time.

No, I've moved off of the distance-limitations issue; I really did want to know what you would do with him if he's not a Derby horse. I'm fine with him not going to the Derby, but unless he runs poorly next out, you know he's going.

[Danzig]

he can be a good router without being a derby horse. he can make a lot of money, while avoiding the top of the heap three year olds.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he can be a good router without being a derby horse. he can make a lot of money, while avoiding the top of the heap three year olds.

That's very true. I hope he develops into a top class 3 year old, but there's nothing wrong with being just a notch below (if that ends up being the case).

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he can be a good router without being a derby horse. he can make a lot of money, while avoiding the top of the heap three year olds.

Yeah, Zanjero made over $1 million in just 8 starts as a 3yo and he was surely no better than Discreetly Mine.