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Alan07 02-15-2010 01:21 PM

2/20 (FG): Risen Star (G2); Mineshaft, FG H., SBD (G3's)
 
6th (2:43) Pan Zareta S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $60,000

1 Coy Cat Valenzuela P A 118 L
2 Juliet's Spirit Sellers S J 116 L
3 Four Gifts Albarado R J 116 L
4 Simplify Bridgmohan S X 116 L
5 Dubai Majesty Theriot H J II 116 L
6 Double Espresso Graham J 116 L



7th (3:13) Colonel Power S.

5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $60,000

3 Angelonmyshoulder (GB) Eramia R E 116 L
4 Written in Stone Jacinto J 116 L
5 Grand Traverse Torres F C 118 L
1 Country Day Hernandez B J Jr 116 L
2 Chamberlain Bridge Theriot H J II 116 L
2b Free Brave Mena M 116 L
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 116 L
7 Caspian Sellers S J 116 L
8 Wise River Bourque C C 116 L
9 Turfiste Albarado R J 116 L
1a Due Date Graham J 116 L

A-Coupled: Country Day and Due Date
B-Coupled: Chamberlain Bridge and Free Brave



8th (3:43) Silverbulletday S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Quiet Temper Albarado R J 122 L
2 The Rumor's True Eramia R E 120 L
3 Age of Humor Desormeaux K J 120 L
4 Elusive Jozi Graham J 116 L
5 Bella Medaglia Sellers S J 116 L
6 Devil May Care Castellano J J 122 L
7 Jody Slew Mena M 120 L



9th (4:13) Fair Grounds H. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Baltimore Bob Hernandez B J Jr 119 L
2 Giant Oak Razo E Jr 120 Blk-Off L
3 Silverfoot Theriot H J II 116 L
4 Blues Street Castellano J J 120 L
5 Secret Getaway Desormeaux K J 116 L
6 Acting Zippy Albarado R J 120 L
7 Dubious Miss Valenzuela P A 118 L
8 Gretsky Taylor L 115 L
9 Get Rich Quick Mena M 118 L
10 Transduction Gold Graham J 114 L



10th (4:43) Risen Star S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Bravo Whiskey Bourque C C 116 L
2 Tempted to Tapit Cohen D 116 L
3 Mountain Justice Sellers S J 116 L
4 Discreetly Mine Castellano J J 116 L
5 Random Move Mena M 116 L
6 Drosselmeyer Desormeaux K J 116 L
7 Northern Giant Jacinto J 116 L
8 Worldly Valenzuela P A 116 L
9 Stay Put Theriot H J II 116 L
10 Letsgetitonmon Bridgmohan S X 116 L
11 Ron the Greek Graham J 120 L
12 Hotep Albarado R J 116 L



11th (5:13) Mineshaft H. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 General Quarters Albarado R J 121 L
2 Friesan Fire Bridgmohan S X 122 L
3 Country Flavor Cohen D 114 L
4 Stonehouse Mena M 116 L
5 Giant Oak Graham J 121 Blk-Off L
6 Good and Lucky Sellers S J 118 L

NTamm1215 02-15-2010 01:40 PM

I'm not sure why Maximus Ruler didn't get entered in the Risen Star. Anyone know?

NT

DaTruth 02-15-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I'm not sure why Maximus Ruler didn't get entered in the Risen Star. Anyone know?

NT

injury.

http://www.nola.com/horseracing/inde...aximus_ru.html

NTamm1215 02-15-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Thanks for the update.

NT

rpncaine 02-15-2010 03:25 PM

Damn...he's in my Road To the Roses stable too.

Betsy 02-15-2010 04:44 PM

I love Hotep, but I hope they scratch him due to his awful post. Discreetly Mine should be kept sprinting, but he's a 3 year old with a pulse, so that's not happening. I love Tapit, but I suspect Tempted to Tapit is just a product of bad winter racing at Aqueduct. I'd be shocked if he's up to this.

I love Devil May Care; she's a forgotten filly due to her stinker in the BC, but she's back on dirt and that should make all the difference

ateamstupid 02-15-2010 10:40 PM

Tempted to Tapit's last race looks phenomenal and he appears the speed of the speed. I'll be interested to see how he follows up his last.

Danzig 02-16-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
I love Hotep, but I hope they scratch him due to his awful post. Discreetly Mine should be kept sprinting, but he's a 3 year old with a pulse, so that's not happening. I love Tapit, but I suspect Tempted to Tapit is just a product of bad winter racing at Aqueduct. I'd be shocked if he's up to this.

I love Devil May Care; she's a forgotten filly due to her stinker in the BC, but she's back on dirt and that should make all the difference



trainer doesn't seem upset about hoteps post-with the race being 1 1/16th, i don't think the post is something the horse can't deal with. as for discreetly mine, being by mineshaft i don't know why you'd worry about him stretching out.

Betsy 02-16-2010 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
trainer doesn't seem upset about hoteps post-with the race being 1 1/16th, i don't think the post is something the horse can't deal with. as for discreetly mine, being by mineshaft i don't know why you'd worry about him stretching out.

I read Frostad's quotes - did they come before or after the draw? In any case, I guess it doesn't matter. A bad post shouldn't hinder the colt from at least running well - it's not like he has to win.

As far as Discreetly Mine goes, Mineshaft has been such a disappointment as a sire that, to me, the fact that he was a router doesn't mean that much. I know you know that not every offspring by a sire takes after that sire - AP Indy has sired sprinter/milers in his career. I did like DM last year, but I really thought his Spectacular Bid was mediocre - at no point did he show anything. He also doesn't look like a horse that will stretch out; to me, he's at best a miler, but I really don't think he wants more than 7 furlongs. I don't expect much from him in this race.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-16-2010 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
I love Hotep,

If he somehow runs competitively - you could safely forget about the Derby hopes of every single horse in this race... unless a horse encounters monumental trouble or their jockey falls off.

Betsy 02-16-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If he somehow runs competitively - you could safely forget about the Derby hopes of every single horse in this race... unless a horse encounters monumental trouble or their jockey falls off.


Ok, I guess you don't think much of this horse, lol. We'll see...I have no idea how he'll do, but I do think he's promising (and he's hardly the worst horse in the race)

brianwspencer 02-16-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
Ok, I guess you don't think much of this horse, lol. We'll see...I have no idea how he'll do, but I do think he's promising (and he's hardly the worst horse in the race)

I like him too, Betsy.

DaTruth 02-16-2010 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I like him too, Betsy.

I like him for the Queen's Plate.

Betsy 02-16-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I like him too, Betsy.

Glad to see I'm not alone - but if I was, that's ok, too. For all I know, he could run up the track and end up in the Queen's Plate. I'm really just rooting for him - he's a question mark, for sure.

Betsy 02-16-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaTruth
I like him for the Queen's Plate.

The QP would be fine, but only if the colt proves he can't run with good American 3 year olds. It's nice that the option exists, though.

hockey2315 02-16-2010 07:16 PM

Is this just a pedigree thing? I'm not seeing anything else appealing about this horse.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-16-2010 07:17 PM

He makes Uptowncharlybrown look like Point Given.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-16-2010 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
Is this just a pedigree thing?

There's always some mediocre overrated A. P. Indy horse for the Risen Star ... some like Friesan Fire and the god awful Scipion win very unimpressively ... others like Indy Dancer get exposed before the hype train can get out of control.

This stellar Pletcher A. P. Indy below was actually favored over Badge of Silver in the Risen Star ...




I remember the Cradle Stakes at River Downs when Scipion faced Bellamy Road. I was trying to bet Bellamy Road - but I was at an off-track wagering parlor and all the mutuals went down five minutes before the race and didn't come back on till the race was over.

DaTruth 02-16-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
There's always some mediocre overrated A. P. Indy horse for the Risen Star ... some like Friesan Fire and the god awful Scipion win very unimpressively ... others like Indy Dancer get exposed before the hype train can get out of control.

This stellar Pletcher A. P. Indy below was actually favored over Badge of Silver in the Risen Star ...




I remember the Cradle Stakes at River Downs when Scipion faced Bellamy Road. I was trying to bet Bellamy Road - but I was at an off-track wagering parlor and all the mutuals went down five minutes before the race and didn't come back on till the race was over.

Speaking of TAP flops in the Risen Star. How could we forget about Harlington.

DaTruth 02-16-2010 09:37 PM

DrugS, your avatar looks like K.D. Lang wearing Harry Caray's sunglasses.


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