Never won on the dirt theory is dead

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Musket Man ran his usual unspectacular race. He's a very " nice " horse....but hardly of the quality one would hope for a Classic winner. He, along with Pioneer of the Nile, ran their expected races. They were good enough to lose the KY Derby by almost seven lengths. Sometimes that means you finish ninth and tenth....and once a century second and third.

I think the lesson here is that regardless of what Pioneerof The Nile did today or does in the future, you will under no circumstances ever admit that he's talented. I just don't see any scenario under which you would ever reverse course on this issue.

If he wins the Preakness or Belmont, it's because all the good horse got hurt.

If he wins the Breeders' Cup Classic, then it's because he's a synthetic horse.

If he wins multiple Grade Is this year and next, it's because of the relative mediocrity of the competition.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think the lesson here is that regardless of what Pioneerof The Nile did today or does in the future, you will under no circumstances ever admit that he's talented. I just don't see any scenario under which you would ever reverse course on this issue.

Yo

Once the BEYER gang hammers out those super duper ARTI-FIGS, and the horse runs fast enough according to those figs, he'll be accepted.

Otherwise, he ain't **** and it's unusual circumstances that make him look good.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think the lesson here is that regardless of what Pioneerof The Nile did today or does in the future, you will under no circumstances ever admit that he's talented. I just don't see any scenario under which you would ever reverse course on this issue.

If he wins the Preakness or Belmont, it's because all the good horse got hurt.

If he wins the Breeders' Cup Classic, then it's because he's a synthetic horse.

If he wins multiple Grade Is this year and next, it's because of the relative mediocrity of the competition.

When he runs almost as fast as Macho Again I will admit I was wrong about him. I'm still waiting.

[sdjcom]

who said this thread made no sense, everybody talking with opinions, i like it.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

who said this thread made no sense, everybody talking with opinions, i like it.

The off track favored polyrats end of story

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by kgar311

The off track favored polyrats end of story

We'll just see what JW has to say about that on Tuesday.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think the lesson here is that regardless of what Pioneerof The Nile did today or does in the future, you will under no circumstances ever admit that he's talented. I just don't see any scenario under which you would ever reverse course on this issue.

If he wins the Preakness or Belmont, it's because all the good horse got hurt.

If he wins the Breeders' Cup Classic, then it's because he's a synthetic horse.

If he wins multiple Grade Is this year and next, it's because of the relative mediocrity of the competition.

Do you really think POTN ran that great of a race today? He looked very tired in the stretch and barely hung on for the second. The best of this generation didn't run today and POTN couldn't beat what was left. Frankly, I am not all that impressed with POTN or anyone who ran today.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think the lesson here is that regardless of what Pioneerof The Nile did today or does in the future, you will under no circumstances ever admit that he's talented. I just don't see any scenario under which you would ever reverse course on this issue.

If he wins the Preakness or Belmont, it's because all the good horse got hurt.

If he wins the Breeders' Cup Classic, then it's because he's a synthetic horse.

If he wins multiple Grade Is this year and next, it's because of the relative mediocrity of the competition.

Yeah, because if today's tour de force, a badly bearing out distant second by an eyelash, didn't convince the non-believers, nothing ever will. Good call.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, because if today's tour de force, a badly bearing out distant second by an eyelash, didn't convince the non-believers, nothing ever will. Good call.

Sheriff Ateam!!!!

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by BOMBTHREAT

Have you ever seen anyone get blackthroat to admit he's not a thoro-god? I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone tell us why the race ran the way it did (after the race) as well as him.

Please, stop with the compliments.....I'm blushing.