Who Will Be The Pace Setter In The Derby?

[Travis Stone]

Forgot my eye rolll...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Forgot my eye rolll...

If he is a sacrificial lamb, I got a few questions for the owner...why enter? If he is legitimately trying to win the race I don't see him impacting the race all that much, and yes the reason I am asking is because Regal Ransom is rising on my list.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by CSC

If he is a sacrificial lamb, I got a few questions for the owner...why enter? If he is legitimately trying to win the race I don't see him impacting the race all that much, and yes the reason I am asking is because Regal Ransom is rising on my list.

So you're discounting JITD's early speed just because you like Regal Ransom?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

So you're discounting JITD's early speed just because you like Regal Ransom?

My projection in this derby is if they have the usual track set up for derby day, if Regal Ransom runs a 23 and change 1st 1/4 and a 47 and change half, he will be very tough to run down. Obcourse if you have someone pushing him through a 22 and 46 splits his chances will be far lesser in winning this derby. I think a 23 - 47 - 1:11 puts him right there. Once again I wasn't high on him until I really started to view his races from Dubai, and the DWC day race though not hurt by the speed bias was legitimate in the nature it was run in my opinion.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by CSC

Once again I wasn't high on him until I really started to view his races from Dubai, and the DWC day race though not hurt by the speed bias was legitimate in the nature it was run in my opinion.

If there wasn't a bias, does Desert Party run him down?

[Bobby Fischer]

yes

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

If there wasn't a bias, does Desert Party run him down?

I know where this is leading, the easy answer is yes. I may have thought that also if I didn't do my homework. Now I am not sure, I like to think maybe RR didn't let him go by that night. They were 15 clear of the 3rd place finisher so both were not stopping. Suroor said DP was quiet the night before the race, I don't know it's getting a little overanalytical for that type of minutia...I'll back up a few bets ofcourse. Then again maybe these 2 are typical Godolphin's misses. All I know is derby myths are not as written in stone as they once were.

[tjfla]

Isn't Join in the Dance a Pletcher horse like Dunkirk??? He gets out fast and Dunkirk is a CLOSER.

Honestly fits well. Join in the Dance gets out fast and Dunkirk picks up the pieces