10/24 (R7): BC Ladies Classic (Final)

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Zenyatta loves any surface....she is best on dirt, not this stuff. watch the Apple Blossom.

I know, but what I'm saying is that she is the only sure thing in this field on the Santa Anita surface.

The other horses in this race are probably better on a dirt surface as well. So I'm sure there will be a million "omg Zenyatta is a monster" posts when she wins, but it'll be a combination of Zenyatta being good and the others wanting a dirt surface.

[Antitrust32]

I thought this year we were supposed to have real good 3yo fillies?!?! Is the only 3yo in the race Music Note?

I will say that I dont know who these horses are:

Coach Beach – bin Suroor
Bear Now – Baker
Carriage Trial – McGaughey
Santa Teresita – Guillot

so maybe they could be 3yo's

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I thought this year we were supposed to have real good 3yo fillies?!?! Is the only 3yo in the race Music Note?

I will say that I dont know who these horses are:

Coach Beach – bin Suroor
Bear Now – Baker
Carriage Trial – McGaughey
Santa Teresita – Guillot

so maybe they could be 3yo's

Indian Blessing and Zaftig are in the Sprint, Pure Clan in the F&M Turf. I think Proud Spell is the only one of the top 3YOs not running (if you don't include Eight Belles)

[King Glorious]

Zenyatta at 3/5
Hystericalady at 15/1, third longest shot in the field.

[Kasept]

Breeders' Cup Ladies Classic (G1)

1. Zenyatta, Mike Smith, 3-to-5;

2. Hystericalady, Garrett Gomez, 15-to-1;

3. Cocoa Beach, Ramon Dominguez, 8-to-1;

4. Music Note, Javier Castellano, 6-to-1;

5. Carriage Trail, Kent Desormeaux, 8-to-1;

6. Ginger Punch, Rafael Bejarano, 9-to-2;

7. Santa Teresita, Michael Baze, 50-to-1;

8. Bear Now, Enrique DaSilva, 30-to-1.

[Round Pen]

Great race IF you a big sheet player u will absolutely play against Zenyatta there are others in here whose sheet numbers are just as fast as her's.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

Great race IF you a big sheet player u will absolutely play against Zenyatta there are others in here whose sheet numbers are just as fast as her's.

If you believe that dirt numbers transfer over. It is my opinion that synethic numbers are about 2 pts slower then dirt, and that is what I am using when handicapping.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Zenyatta at 3/5
Hystericalady at 15/1, third longest shot in the field.

I love Hystericalady, made an absolute monster bet on her in last year's BC, but she's already proven to be not the same on synthetics.

She's the test case for synthetics vs. real dirt

[SniperSB23]

Carriage Trail over Zenyatta with Hystericalady third and a superfecta moneymaking Santa Teresita running fourth.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Carriage Trail over Zenyatta with Hystericalady third and a superfecta moneymaking Santa Teresita running fourth.

Really? You're buying the hype on this one?

[pgiaco]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Zenyatta at 3/5
Hystericalady at 15/1, third longest shot in the field.

Hystericalady on synthetic at any price is a toss for me.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pgiaco

Hystericalady on synthetic at any price is a toss for me.

She was a toss last year from multiple people because of post and some other BS.

Toss at your own pearl, while her BEST races were on dirt, he synethics are HALF as bad as people are making them out to be

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I bet her last year Scavs so I understand what you are saying. And maybe her races on synthetic aren't as bad as people are making it, but she is a completely different horse on dirt. I can see her running second, but how can she win this race?

I don't think she can, just saying, she can fill the exacta/trifecta.

I am a huge Zenyatta fan, but I am starting to question her a little bit based on who she has faced.

Her Oaklawn race was real big, but she was cycling to that effort and Ginger Punch obviously wasn't on her game that day, and I think Ginger Punch likes the synethics, she ran a top on the times that she went to them (at Keeneland)...I don't really have many opinions yet, using the plane ride to sort out everything...

The one thing I am struggling with right now is the Woodbine shippers, because there are a couple that absolutely lay over their fields, figure-wise.