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Kasept 10-14-2008 05:42 AM

10/24 (R7): BC Ladies Classic (Final)
 
7th (3:15) Breeders' Cup Ladies Classic (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Zenyatta Smith M E 123
2 Hystericalady Gomez G K 123 L
3 Cocoa Beach (CHI) Dominguez R 123 L
4 Music Note Castellano J J 119 L
5 Carriage Trail Desormeaux K J 123 L
6 Ginger Punch Bejarano R 123 L
7 Santa Teresita Baze M C 123 L
8 Bear Now Da Silva E R 123 L

Indian Charlie 10-14-2008 11:14 AM

Spring Waltz is a late scratch.

What's the asterisk next to Unbridled Belle mean? Supp?

my miss storm cat 10-14-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Distaff
Lush Lashes

Getting ready for HK in December instead...

(... and yea for you for calling it the Distaff and not that silly other name).

DogsUp 10-15-2008 01:32 PM

This is the race I am looking forward to the most. I really want to see if Zenyatta has the kick to catch horses of this caliber. Should be a great race and prob one of the best races of the two day event.

Kasept 10-15-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DogsUp
This is the race I am looking forward to the most. I really want to see if Zenyatta has the kick to catch horses of this caliber. Should be a great race and prob one of the best races of the two day event.

Horses of this caliber? What caliber? :confused:

Who in this race has demonstrated a remote ability to give her a challenge? She just demolished Hystericalady who is as good as anybody in the race...

DogsUp 10-15-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Horses of this caliber? What caliber? :confused:

Who in this race has demonstrated a remote ability to give her a challenge? She just demolished Hystericalady who is as good as anybody in the race...

Just my humble opinion, but I think that Hysterical Lady is much better than what she showed on that day. I think that Ginger Punch and Music Note are just as good at Hysterical Lady. I definately believe that Zenyatta has all the advantages in the race. However, I still believe that she will have to run an exceptional race to win.

CSC 10-15-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Getting ready for HK in December instead...

(... and yea for you for calling it the Distaff and not that silly other name).

Nothing wrong with that. The Hong Kong Vase and other races of that ilk are races that I look fwd to and for others I presume also. It's usually a great card of intl racing.

Payson Dave 10-15-2008 02:13 PM

Is Coach Beach related to Cocoa Pants??

10 pnt move up 10-15-2008 10:14 PM

Its a horse race so anyone can get beat but on every objective measure she should win. She has beat the best two older horses in this race with ease on two different surfaces in two different states. She has won with slow paces, fast paces, good trips, bad trips, giving weight., she has the best figures on both surfaces. Its racing but those saying she will get beat are doing so just to go against a big favorite, or they are projecting some kind of huge move up from one of the younger horses such as Music Note.

hrfan 10-16-2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Horses of this caliber? What caliber? :confused:

Who in this race has demonstrated a remote ability to give her a challenge? She just demolished Hystericalady who is as good as anybody in the race...

The only horse he could possibly be talking about is Carriage Trail

10 pnt move up 10-16-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
The only horse he could possibly be talking about is Carriage Trail

I dont like the way she was getting out down the stretch, ships, and a quick turn around off the big effort.

letswastemoney 10-20-2008 12:39 AM

Zenyatta has the advantage because we all know she loves this surface. We don't know what Ginger Punch, Music Note, etc will do on this surface. On a dirt track, there is no way she'd crush Hystericalady like that.

10 pnt move up 10-20-2008 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Zenyatta has the advantage because we all know she loves this surface. We don't know what Ginger Punch, Music Note, etc will do on this surface. On a dirt track, there is no way she'd crush Hystericalady like that.

Zenyatta loves any surface....she is best on dirt, not this stuff. watch the Apple Blossom.

letswastemoney 10-20-2008 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Zenyatta loves any surface....she is best on dirt, not this stuff. watch the Apple Blossom.

I know, but what I'm saying is that she is the only sure thing in this field on the Santa Anita surface.

The other horses in this race are probably better on a dirt surface as well. So I'm sure there will be a million "omg Zenyatta is a monster" posts when she wins, but it'll be a combination of Zenyatta being good and the others wanting a dirt surface.

Antitrust32 10-21-2008 12:12 PM

I thought this year we were supposed to have real good 3yo fillies?!?! Is the only 3yo in the race Music Note?

I will say that I dont know who these horses are:

Coach Beach – bin Suroor
Bear Now – Baker
Carriage Trial – McGaughey
Santa Teresita – Guillot

so maybe they could be 3yo's

smuthg 10-21-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I thought this year we were supposed to have real good 3yo fillies?!?! Is the only 3yo in the race Music Note?

I will say that I dont know who these horses are:

Coach Beach – bin Suroor
Bear Now – Baker
Carriage Trial – McGaughey
Santa Teresita – Guillot

so maybe they could be 3yo's

Indian Blessing and Zaftig are in the Sprint, Pure Clan in the F&M Turf. I think Proud Spell is the only one of the top 3YOs not running (if you don't include Eight Belles)

King Glorious 10-21-2008 03:29 PM

Zenyatta at 3/5
Hystericalady at 15/1, third longest shot in the field.

Kasept 10-21-2008 04:30 PM

Breeders' Cup Ladies Classic (G1)

1. Zenyatta, Mike Smith, 3-to-5;

2. Hystericalady, Garrett Gomez, 15-to-1;

3. Cocoa Beach, Ramon Dominguez, 8-to-1;

4. Music Note, Javier Castellano, 6-to-1;

5. Carriage Trail, Kent Desormeaux, 8-to-1;

6. Ginger Punch, Rafael Bejarano, 9-to-2;

7. Santa Teresita, Michael Baze, 50-to-1;

8. Bear Now, Enrique DaSilva, 30-to-1.

Round Pen 10-21-2008 04:41 PM

Great race IF you a big sheet player u will absolutely play against Zenyatta there are others in here whose sheet numbers are just as fast as her's.

Scav 10-21-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Great race IF you a big sheet player u will absolutely play against Zenyatta there are others in here whose sheet numbers are just as fast as her's.

If you believe that dirt numbers transfer over. It is my opinion that synethic numbers are about 2 pts slower then dirt, and that is what I am using when handicapping.


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