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Old 05-18-2008, 05:23 PM
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Sox Quit trying to Reason with him He is obviously a follower of the BSF.
I know he is not slow you no he is not slow so let Beyer and HIm live in LaLa land for awhile.
"a follower of the BSF"? Umm, Beyer's BSF is not saying BB is slow. He is saying the Preakness was run in a slow time. Anyone who was not comatose while watching the race could see that Desormeaux and BB could have gotten to the wire much faster than they did, and earned a higher BSF in doing so. Desormeaux had his eyes on the Belmont wire, not the Preakness wire.

In Beyer's column he merely said the horse hasn't beaten much yet. Hard to argue with that.

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Old 05-18-2008, 05:38 PM
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"a follower of the BSF"? Umm, Beyer's BSF is not saying BB is slow. He is saying the Preakness was run in a slow time. Anyone who was not comatose while watching the race could see that Desormeaux and BB could have gotten to the wire much faster than they did, and earned a higher BSF in doing so. Desormeaux had his eyes on the Belmont wire, not the Preakness wire.

In Beyer's column he merely said the horse hasn't beaten much yet. Hard to argue with that.

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He also says the horse has yet to run a fast race. The horse hasn't even broke a 110 beyer. He appears to be a 105 beyer horse. Nothing special there.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:41 PM
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And Casino Drive won the Peter Pan, with a great trip, getting a 99 Beyer.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:44 PM
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And Casino Drive won the Peter Pan, with a great trip, getting a 99 Beyer.
Maybe you should get the beyer correct and then you can comment.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:55 PM
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Maybe you should get the beyer correct and then you can comment.

They moved it up two points. Well, that certainly makes all the difference in the world.

Out of curiousity, after Casino Drive tanks in the Belmont, will you be slinking out the back door or changing your name to Mien?
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:15 PM
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They moved it up two points. Well, that certainly makes all the difference in the world.

Out of curiousity, after Casino Drive tanks in the Belmont, will you be slinking out the back door or changing your name to Mien?
I don't need to slink out any door. He will win, go back to Japan, and then take on Curlin. BB will lose and the excuse will be a mysterious injury and he will be retired.

As for the beyer, they did move it up 2 points but they should have moved in up 7 points. There claim that the track got that much faster was nonsense. He did it in his second career start off a long layoff after quarantine. Only exceptional animals can do that.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:19 PM
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:28 PM
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I don't need to slink out any door. He will win, go back to Japan, and then take on Curlin. BB will lose and the excuse will be a mysterious injury and he will be retired.

As for the beyer, they did move it up 2 points but they should have moved in up 7 points. There claim that the track got that much faster was nonsense. He did it in his second career start off a long layoff after quarantine. Only exceptional animals can do that.

Setting aside the general hilarity of your posts, you are making the usual mistake that internet buffoons make......using a Beyer figure as gospel when it suits your argument ( Big Brown is slow because he ran a 100 ) but then explaining why a Beyer figure is inaccurate when it doesn't suit your argument ( Casino Drive is better than Big Brown ). Of course, if you really wanted to understand figs and racing, instead of just screeching for attention, you could have brought up that while the 100 figure for Big Brown works well for Icabad Crane and his past, it comes up 7 to 15 points light for a number of other horses in the race. Now, I think the number works, as the track appeared consistent during the day, unlike the Belmont surface on Peter Pan day when any competent figure maker understands that there was a split variant.
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I don't need to slink out any door. He will win, go back to Japan, and then take on Curlin. BB will lose and the excuse will be a mysterious injury and he will be retired.

As for the beyer, they did move it up 2 points but they should have moved in up 7 points. There claim that the track got that much faster was nonsense. He did it in his second career start off a long layoff after quarantine. Only exceptional animals can do that.
You should. You've done enough.
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They moved it up two points. Well, that certainly makes all the difference in the world.

Out of curiousity, after Casino Drive tanks in the Belmont, will you be slinking out the back door or changing your name to Mien?
HAHAHA Good One
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