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Better Than Honour 05-18-2008 02:43 PM

Big Brown Beyer for Preakness was a 100
 
Is this the slowest winning of a triple crown race since Jazil's big 95?

fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 02:59 PM

Pretty Dam good for what was basically a workout. Next stop Belmont and the Triple Crown.

Better Than Honour 05-18-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Pretty Dam good for what was basically a workout. Next stop Belmont and the Triple Crown.

Give me a break. A 100 beyer is never good for this caliber. It is grade 3 caliber and the rest of the field couldn't even run it. This is easily the slowest group of 3 year olds in decades.

fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 03:37 PM

Would you PLEASE stop acting like you know what you are talking about.
This horse is a freak. I can't wait to see him destroy your Casino Drive. Did you watch the race yesterday or did you have your head up your ass like you usually do.

tiggerv 05-18-2008 03:45 PM

Why would anybody care about a BSF for yesterdays race? You had a record setting track, a moderate pace and a horse who basically was shut down with 1F to go? Did you think it would be a fast figure?

So it proved that there was nobody else in the race...thank you Capt Obvious.

Better Than Honour 05-18-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Would you PLEASE stop acting like you know what you are talking about.
This horse is a freak. I can't wait to see him destroy your Casino Drive. Did you watch the race yesterday or did you have your head up your ass like you usually do.

Me and Andy Beyer. The horse is not running fast. What do you want me to tell you that he is just so good that he is making these horses look bad. These are terrible horses. Half of the Derby and Preakness fields are mid 80 beyer horses that belong in allowance races at Monmouth.

fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Why would anybody care about a BSF for yesterdays race? You had a record setting track, a moderate pace and a horse who basically was shut down with 1F to go? Did you think it would be a fast figure?

So it proved that there was nobody else in the race...thank you Capt Obvious.

Thank You Tiggerv. He obviously didn't watch the overhead to see how he dominated the field.

fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Better Than Honour
Me and Andy Beyer. The horse is not running fast. What do you want me to tell you that he is just so good that he is making these horses look bad. These are terrible horses. Half of the Derby and Preakness fields are mid 80 beyer horses that belong in allowance races at Monmouth.

Why would I care about the other horses? It doesn't bother me that it's a weak year. Not one bit. This animal continues to impress me more and more every race. You've made it clear you don't like him. I don't really care who you do or don't like. I also don't care if it was a low Beyer. Thyere's not another 3 year old who can beat him.

Round Pen 05-18-2008 04:08 PM

Sox Quit trying to Reason with him He is obviously a follower of the BSF.
I know he is not slow you no he is not slow so let Beyer and HIm live in LaLa land for awhile.

fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Sox Quit trying to Reason with him He is obviously a follower of the BSF.
I know he is not slow you no he is not slow so let Beyer and HIm live in LaLa land for awhile.

Good Point!

cmorioles 05-18-2008 04:18 PM

Anyone that blindly bets figures will lose, period. Whether mine, Beyer, Thorograph, Sheets, whatever. But they are a pretty good starting point.

Dunbar 05-18-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Sox Quit trying to Reason with him He is obviously a follower of the BSF.
I know he is not slow you no he is not slow so let Beyer and HIm live in LaLa land for awhile.

"a follower of the BSF"? Umm, Beyer's BSF is not saying BB is slow. He is saying the Preakness was run in a slow time. Anyone who was not comatose while watching the race could see that Desormeaux and BB could have gotten to the wire much faster than they did, and earned a higher BSF in doing so. Desormeaux had his eyes on the Belmont wire, not the Preakness wire.

In Beyer's column he merely said the horse hasn't beaten much yet. Hard to argue with that.

--Dunbar

Better Than Honour 05-18-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar
"a follower of the BSF"? Umm, Beyer's BSF is not saying BB is slow. He is saying the Preakness was run in a slow time. Anyone who was not comatose while watching the race could see that Desormeaux and BB could have gotten to the wire much faster than they did, and earned a higher BSF in doing so. Desormeaux had his eyes on the Belmont wire, not the Preakness wire.

In Beyer's column he merely said the horse hasn't beaten much yet. Hard to argue with that.

--Dunbar

He also says the horse has yet to run a fast race. The horse hasn't even broke a 110 beyer. He appears to be a 105 beyer horse. Nothing special there.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2008 04:41 PM

And Casino Drive won the Peter Pan, with a great trip, getting a 99 Beyer.

Better Than Honour 05-18-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And Casino Drive won the Peter Pan, with a great trip, getting a 99 Beyer.

Maybe you should get the beyer correct and then you can comment.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Better Than Honour
Maybe you should get the beyer correct and then you can comment.


They moved it up two points. Well, that certainly makes all the difference in the world.

Out of curiousity, after Casino Drive tanks in the Belmont, will you be slinking out the back door or changing your name to Mien?

Better Than Honour 05-18-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
They moved it up two points. Well, that certainly makes all the difference in the world.

Out of curiousity, after Casino Drive tanks in the Belmont, will you be slinking out the back door or changing your name to Mien?

I don't need to slink out any door. He will win, go back to Japan, and then take on Curlin. BB will lose and the excuse will be a mysterious injury and he will be retired.

As for the beyer, they did move it up 2 points but they should have moved in up 7 points. There claim that the track got that much faster was nonsense. He did it in his second career start off a long layoff after quarantine. Only exceptional animals can do that.

ArlJim78 05-18-2008 05:19 PM

Carnac the Magnificent has spoken.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Carnac the Magnificent has spoken.


Someone had to take the pressure off Harding and Cheswick.


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