4/12 (KEE): Blue Grass (Gr. I)

[Mike]

Yeah, I'd probably steer Pyro away from synthetic tracks in the future if I were in charge, there's still a few natural dirt tracks in the US

[HaloWishingwell]

Actually if I was a PYRO fan I would be concerned. Polytrack is an easy excuse to use for his performance but that was terrible. Not to compare horses but STREET SENSE was known as not as good on poly but at least he was in the same zip code. He had no apparent trouble in the race and is a run horse that showed nothing today. This is not the kind of performance that leads to Derby victories.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Actually if I was a PYRO fan I would be concerned. Polytrack is an easy excuse to use for his performance but that was terrible. Not to compare horses but STREET SENSE was known as not as good on poly but at least he was in the same zip code. He had no apparent trouble in the race and is a run horse that showed nothing today. This is not the kind of performance that leads to Derby victories.

totally agree, he did not run 1 step today, so basicely he's going into the derby off of a layoff of....almost 8 weeks, this race is a total total throw out, so now he in my mind has not raced since march 8th, where in my opinion he beat a weak group then, in a slow time.

i pray they bet this horse hard, i think he could run last.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

totally agree, he did not run 1 step today, so basicely he's going into the derby off of a layoff of....almost 8 weeks, this race is a total total throw out, so now he in my mind has not raced since march 8th, where in my opinion he beat a weak group then, in a slow time.

i pray they bet this horse hard, i think he could run last.

Unless he gets hurt or something else REALLY strange happens during the race, there is absolutely no way that horse finishes last going 10f on the dirt against some of the ones that are sure to be entered in the race.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Unless he gets hurt or something else REALLY strange happens during the race, there is absolutely no way that horse finishes last going 10f on the dirt against some of the ones that are sure to be entered in the race.

I don't expect him to finish last either but despite his terrible race ,he'll be terribly overbet by the wiseguys and perform below his expectations again.

[Danzig]

i would caution against completely tossing pyro in may.

war pass ran a remarkably bad race in the tampa bay derby, and came back to run a pretty strong race in the wood.

pyro has had nothing going wrong on dirt.

[HaloWishingwell]

True nothing has gone wrong for him on dirt but up to now he has handled all sorts of conditions. Fast or sloppy tracks PYRO has run good or creditable races. Yesterday was a disaster regardless of the track. He might rebound and be a trivia answer for the worst finish before a Derby but I'll bet against it and guess there's more to it.

[Thunder Gulch]

It was terrible, but it was a surface he clearly hated. Would anyone be excited about backing Kip Deville or English Channel if they threw him out against Curlin and co on dirt? It's a rare animal indeed that can perfom at the top levels on all surfaces, but a bad performance on one not preferred can be excused. Now the question with Pyro is whether something is wrong, whether he isn't good, or whether he needs to get back on dirt to run his race. That's why they call it gambling and now you'll get some odds to help backing Pyro if you like him.