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Old 01-17-2008, 11:13 AM
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Another great college coach born in Ohio and trained at Ohio State.

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Old 01-17-2008, 04:26 PM
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He's another in the long line of "do as I say not as I do" kind of guys!!! My guess is what is televised is only the bad side of Knight. In the end I think he has done a lot of good things as well. He actually enjoys it however. His "game face" imitations during one of his legendary press conferences was priceless!!
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:01 PM
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i don't get the difference between him and a prima donna actress.

both are hugely talanted. but either could be replaced with someone nearly as talanted minus the personality disorder.

isn't it a given that a good coach inspires their players?

it's telling that his defender's feel it neccesary to cite the player's who found him inspiring. I would assume all coach's at the college level have that.

how much wreckage has this guy left?

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Old 01-17-2008, 05:51 PM
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i don't get the difference between him and a prima donna actress.

both are hugely talanted. but either could be replaced with someone nearly as talanted minus the personality disorder.

isn't it a given that a good coach inspires their players?

it's telling that his defender's feel it neccesary to cite the player's who found him inspiring. I would assume all coach's at the college level have that.

how many have the wreckage this guy left?
if inspiration is fear, then he's the best at it.
knights teams usually, hustle, play good defense, run good motion offense and make few mistakes. they are in proper postions on the floor and aware of game situations. thats all good coaching.
i admit i don't like knights act but respect his results and his teams. personally, i'm a dean smith fan and the carolina chain of coaches.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:16 PM
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if inspiration is fear, then he's the best at it.
knights teams usually, hustle, play good defense, run good motion offense and make few mistakes. they are in proper postions on the floor and aware of game situations. thats all good coaching.
i admit i don't like knights act but respect his results and his teams. personally, i'm a dean smith fan and the carolina chain of coaches.
"knights teams usually, hustle, play good defense, run good motion offense and make few mistakes. they are in proper postions on the floor and aware of game situations. thats all good coaching"

if no other team did this, i'd be his biggest fan <--- (that's a lie)

i don't have facts that support this. but what i think is that for every player he inspires to maximize their talant there is another he has ruined.

he's a great coach. and for some players he's exactly what they need.

but he comes with serious baggage. i don't think that's true for dean smith. and many other's.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:44 PM
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"knights teams usually, hustle, play good defense, run good motion offense and make few mistakes. they are in proper postions on the floor and aware of game situations. thats all good coaching"

if no other team did this, i'd be his biggest fan <--- (that's a lie)

i don't have facts that support this. but what i think is that for every player he inspires to maximize their talant there is another he has ruined.

he's a great coach. and for some players he's exactly what they need.

but he comes with serious baggage. i don't think that's true for dean smith. and many other's.
i read the only player that dean smith ever advised to leave school early was rasheed wallace, because he wanted him OUT of the program. apparently CDS couldn't through to him. i don't think knight really dealt with kids like wallace.
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Old 01-17-2008, 10:39 PM
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if inspiration is fear, then he's the best at it.
knights teams usually, hustle, play good defense, run good motion offense and make few mistakes. they are in proper postions on the floor and aware of game situations. thats all good coaching.
i admit i don't like knights act but respect his results and his teams. personally, i'm a dean smith fan and the carolina chain of coaches.
Dean Smith...the man who did less with more than any coach in history...Took MJ and three other NBA all stars to get him a ring...
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:47 AM
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Dean Smith...the man who did less with more than any coach in history...Took MJ and three other NBA all stars to get him a ring...
alot of coach smith teams were wrecked by guys leaving early, clear back to bob mcadoo. also some of his best teams were back when the tourny. was only 16 teams and only 1 team from the acc got in. that's the acc tourny. winner.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:58 PM
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alot of coach smith teams were wrecked by guys leaving early, clear back to bob mcadoo. also some of his best teams were back when the tourny. was only 16 teams and only 1 team from the acc got in. that's the acc tourny. winner.
That is simply not true. He coached in the era of players staying 4 years until the end of his career when he had the most success. He was an underachiever as a coach though he was a great recruiter and ran a great program. Coach Wooden seemed to do ok under the smaller tourney format.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:50 PM
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i don't get the difference between him and a prima donna actress.

both are hugely talanted. but either could be replaced with someone nearly as talanted minus the personality disorder.

how much wreckage has this guy left?
It is very hard to replace him but he is a prima donna.
Basketball is a creative sport. I think it is an immense
amount of fun. His basic theme of ball and player movement
is not new, its just that he teaches it better. Some games
his teams are so perfectly spaced while moving off the ball
screening, its really fun too watch. The players SHOULD
love this kind of game. But he makes it pure drugery.
He teaches many kids to despise a beautiful game.

He personally is a wreck imo. He is a tragic Greek character.
Maybe he wants to be. Just hate seeing so much talent
wasted. He no longer gets any top players. Who would
want to put up with his crap day after day, lessons in life
kids stuff. I guess the wayward who need a sense of
direction and need to be derided daily to learn.

I would not send a kid of mine close to the man.
Except in a war.
We are talkn basketball practice... practice man...
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Old 01-17-2008, 10:09 PM
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Probably the greatest college basketball coach to ever draw a breath. Mackey was great for Cleveland State before he got caught freebasing
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Probably the greatest college basketball coach to ever draw a breath. Mackey was great for Cleveland State before he got caught freebasing
Maybe 3rd. Number 1 is obviously John Wooden. Number 2 is Coach K. BK probably 3rd. Mackey got all the talent out of Mouse McFadden that he could
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:15 PM
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Maybe 3rd. Number 1 is obviously John Wooden. Number 2 is Coach K. BK probably 3rd. Mackey got all the talent out of Mouse McFadden that he could
Sorta like saying Red Auerbach was the greatest. What about 8 teams in the league?, and Red had the best players so he won every year. UCLA had the best players all the time.

Bill Walton said Wooden taught him about life. Enough said. That drops him out of the top 10 automatically.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:07 PM
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Probably the greatest college basketball coach to ever draw a breath.
That's my opinion of John Chaney......

He was 3-0 ATS when I bet his teams at Temple.
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:16 AM
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I would think the samething in that case TID

Mackey was about to lead CSU to the promise land, he did squeeze the mouse for all he had
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