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Old 03-15-2018, 09:13 PM
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So all things considered, is it really that big a reach to say horse "C" would be a well respected third choice lining up next to horses "A" & "B" ?
Wasn't the Derby Future Wager this past weekend a referendum on the topic?

This was how the betting closed among the three:

Justify 6.20-1
Bolt 7.10-1
McKenzie 9.40-1
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:36 PM
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Wasn't the Derby Future Wager this past weekend a referendum on the topic?

This was how the betting closed among the three:

Justify 6.20-1
Bolt 7.10-1
McKenzie 9.40-1
This is a good point.
I was aware of the Derby finals for pool two when I posted.
I'm basing my opinion on how I've seen the public bet over the years in a certain situation.
And yes, I think it's a fair point to say that if the public likes Justify in the Derby future 2.........they would make him the chalk @ SA.
But I also think the Derby futures speculators are assuming Justify cruises in his final Derby prep.........he may very well,but with his two race resume I just don't think he'd do it as the chalk if Bolt/McKinzie were in the same race.
I'll add on here....
I'm pretty sure Justify isn't going to FLA.........but I wonder if he'd be favored against that bunch over the Gulfstream oval ?
More: I can see Justify rolling in his final Derby prep...........but I believe in the Derby his lack of seasoning will catch up with him.
And I'll be curious how Mr. White(I think he still makes the ML @ SA)sorts out his line.....
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:23 PM
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Though not involved in the ownership directly, Justify breeder John Gunther tweeting that Arkansas Derby is the target..
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Old 03-18-2018, 05:15 PM
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Louisiana Derby

1) Bravazo 7-2 - Gary Stevens
2) Noble Indy 7-2 - John Velazquez
3) Marmello 50-1 - Jack Gilligan
4) Givemeaminit 20-1 - Javier Castellano
5) Retirement Fund 12-1 - Shaun Bridgmohan
6) Hyndford 8-1 - Joe Bravo
7) Snapper Sinclair 9-2 - Jose Ortiz
8) Lone Sailor 20-1 - James Graham
9) My Boy Jack 5-2 - Kent Desormeaux
10) Dark Templar 12-1 - Florent Geroux
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Old 03-18-2018, 05:29 PM
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Louisiana Derby

1) Bravazo 7-2 - Gary Stevens
2) Noble Indy 7-2 - John Velazquez
3) Marmello 50-1 - Jack Gilligan
4) Givemeaminit 20-1 - Javier Castellano
5) Retirement Fund 12-1 - Shaun Bridgmohan
6) Hyndford 8-1 - Joe Bravo
7) Snapper Sinclair 9-2 - Jose Ortiz
8) Lone Sailor 20-1 - James Graham
9) My Boy Jack 5-2 - Kent Desormeaux
10) Dark Templar 12-1 - Florent Geroux
mixing him in a little hope the 8-1 holds up
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Old 03-18-2018, 06:39 PM
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Solomini to the Wood per Zayats..
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:25 PM
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mixing him in a little hope the 8-1 holds up
I think you get all of that.
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Old 03-27-2018, 07:26 PM
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FL Derby

Audible (Pletcher)
Catholic Boy (Thomas)
Promises Fulfilled (Romans)
Storm Runner (Romans)
Strike Power (Hennig)
Tip Sheet (Gold)
Mississippi (Casse)
Millionaire Runner (Mejia)
Speed Franco (Delgado)
Hofburg (Mott)
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Old 03-27-2018, 07:28 PM
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I believe Speed Franco is out. Hard to believe, as he looked great on paper.

Odd move by Mott rushing Hofburg. Hard to believe Juddmonte is pushing him but I guess anything is possible. Good horse but unlikely to get a major piece here.
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Old 03-27-2018, 10:57 PM
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Mississippi.........he's the mystery horse to me.
I've always thought he's wildly talented...........just haven't seen much of him.
Considering how lightly raced he is,the FLA Derby sure is a tough spot for him.
I just don't see Casse ever run his horses where they don't belong,he must have something with this Colt.
Giant ownership line don't ya know.
Noble Indy flattered him.
Storm Runner didn't.
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:19 PM
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WOOD MEMORIAL (Current)

Enticed (Kiaran McLaughlin)
Evaluator (Michael Dilger)
Firenze Fire (Jason Servis)
King Zachary (Dale Romans)
Marconi (Todd Pletcher)
Old Time Revival (Kenneth Decker)
Solomini (Bob Baffert)
Vino Rosso (Pletcher)

Possible:

American Lincoln (Linda Rice)
California Night (Mike Maker)
Kanthaka (Jerry Hollendorfer
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WOOD MEMORIAL (Current)

Enticed (Kiaran McLaughlin)
Evaluator (Michael Dilger)
Firenze Fire (Jason Servis)
King Zachary (Dale Romans)
Marconi (Todd Pletcher)
Old Time Revival (Kenneth Decker)
Solomini (Bob Baffert)
Vino Rosso (Pletcher)

Possible:

American Lincoln (Linda Rice)
California Night (Mike Maker)
Kanthaka (Jerry Hollendorfer
Would be a smart move for Hollendorfer IMO.
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:56 PM
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Would be a smart move for Hollendorfer IMO.
To ship and be the 5th most likely winner?
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:35 PM
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I got no feeling whatsoever with these horses so far. Really feeling a long shot in the K.D. this year.
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To ship and be the 5th most likely winner?
No killers in that group.
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