DT FOCUS (1/14-GP 9): 7f MSW -- Odysseus (85 Beyer)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

His Oaklawn race was really good, kinda like Zenyattas... Plus like half the people around here say Tiago would have been a freak on dirt, so losing to him with I think a 107 beyer is not that bad.

So now we're calling Heatseeker a dirt horse because he ran second to a horse that people on DT say would've been a freak on dirt. Got it.

The bottom line is Giant's Causeway has five million-dollar earners, and Swift Temper's the only one who was a bona fide dirt horse. And as much as I like her, she wasn't exactly historically fast.

[Sightseek]

I never thought I would see the word 'freak' in the same sentence as Tiago.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Considering how many chances he's had to throw a true star on dirt and the best he's done is Swift Temper/First Samurai/Giant Moon/Hold Me Back/First Passage, I'd say he's pretty much a turf/synthetic sire. Either that or he sucks in general.

The point AGAIN was not to laud the horse the second coming of Mr. P.. Giants Causeway has been a better turf stallion to date BUT he can certainly get a quality dirt runner

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The point AGAIN was not to laud the horse the second coming of Mr. P.. Giants Causeway has been a better turf stallion to date BUT he can certainly get a quality dirt runner

And my point again is that compared to the height of his fee and the kind of mares he's gotten, he's been a relative failure on dirt. So in the case of City Wolf, with a horse that's going to be 4-1 in a salty maiden field that he's no better than, I'll take the horses that are more likely to be legitimate dirt horses.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

And my point again is that compared to the height of his fee and the kind of mares he's gotten, he's been a relative failure on dirt. So in the case of City Wolf, with a horse that's going to be 4-1 in a salty maiden field that he's no better than, I'll take the horses that are more likely to be legitimate dirt horses.

I guess your pitching the Stormy Atlantic.. City Wolf has run twice on dirt, I am not saying he would or wouldnt be better on grass just that there is plenty to go on without considering if GCauseway means anything in todays race..

The fav is a cinch away unless...Jerkins to Dutrow you do the math unless one of these FTS's is a Curlin type

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

the brown 10 day of destiny is the goods.looks like they have been planning this start sence toga...if not the 4 imo

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Plus like half the people around here say Tiago would have been a freak on dirt, so losing to him with I think a 107 beyer is not that bad.

Where's the LMFAO smiley?

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Plus like half the people around here say Tiago would have been a freak on dirt, so losing to him with I think a 107 beyer is not that bad.

If by "freak" you mean a bottom of the exotics filler in real races, then yes, count me in the group of "half the people around here."

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The fav is a cinch away unless...Jerkins to Dutrow you do the math unless one of these FTS's is a Curlin type

He was under Dutrow in his last start when he ran third at 1-1. I don't think Jimmy Jerkens is a guy it's very easy to move up off of.

[Kasept]

85 Beyer for Odysseus (and a very pleased Satish Sanan). Indicated on ATR Thursday that they will not necessarily rush him into a stake, though the Sam Davis a possibility.