derby/eclipse futures

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

http://drf.com/news/article/81781.html the eclipse are for fun. it amazes me that people would actually lay down money on the derby now. i got some swampland and some bridges for sale if anyone is interested

[ManilaRose]

www.letitride.com
Opens in February

Nobiz Like Shobiz 7-1
Street Sense 9-1
Hard Spun 12-1
Notional 18-1
Birdbirdistheword 20-1
Any Given Saturday 22-1
Ravel 22-1
Liquidity 25-1
Scat Daddy 30-1
Circular Quay 30-1
Holy Roman Emperor 30-1
Great Hunter 30-1
Unbridled Express 30-1
Bold Start 30-1
Stormello 35-1
Exhale 40-1
Lawrence The Roman 40-1
Chelokee 40-1
Sam P. 40-1
Pirates Deputy 40-1
Our Sacred Honor 50-1
Out of Gwedda 50-1
Minefield 50-1
Roman Commander 50-1
Soldiers Dancer 50-1
Soaring By 50-1
Teofilo 50-1
Teuflesberg 50-1
C P West 50-1
Cowtown Cat 50-1
Day Pass 50-1
Dreaming of Anna 50-1
Drums of Thunder 50-1
Belgravia 50-1
Boutrous 50-1
Buffalo Man 50-1
Les Grands Trois 50-1
Jalil 50-1
E Z Warrior 50-1
Saint Paul 50-1
Tenfold 50-1
Acrata (New) 50-1
Kong the King 50-1
Vicarino 50-1
Xchanger 50-1
Zanjero 50-1
Marcavelly 60-1
Barilko 60-1
Skip Code 60-1
Prime Ruler 60-1
Pegasus Wind 75-1
Shermanesque 75-1
Spot the Diplomat 75-1
The Green Monkey 75-1
Twilight Meteor 75-1
Black Seventeen 75-1
Chace City 75-1
Eternal Star 75-1
First Defence 75-1
Green Vegas 75-1
Bel Air Beauty 75-1
Cash Included 75-1
Forward Commitment 75-1
Game of Skill 75-1
Grapelli 75-1
War Wolf 75-1
Sentry 75-1
Visionario 75-1
Vital Equine 75-1
Came To Pass 75-1
Johannesburg Star 75-1
Pink Viper 75-1
Dream of Angels 80-1
Izzie's Halo 80-1
Sightseeing 100-1
Principle Secret 100-1
Run Alex Run 100-1
Mercantile 100-1
Meritocracy 100-1
Passport 100-1
Officer Rocket 100-1
Freesgood 100-1
Got The Last Laugh 100-1
Irish Ace 100-1
Dilemma 100-1
Battle Paint 100-1
Actin Good 100-1
Point Ashley 100-1
Temecula Creek 100-1
Octave 100-1
U D Ghetto 100-1
What A Tale 125-1
Silent Soul 125-1
Tap It Light 125-1
Half Famous (New) 125-1
Mandurah 125-1
Corrupt 125-1
Grasshopper 125-1
Joe Got Even 125-1
Just Julian 125-1
King of the Roxy 125-1
Horse Greeley 125-1
Napa Cat 125-1
Real Estate 125-1
Silver Express 125-1
Successful Outlook 125-1
Tytus 150-1
True Competitor 150-1
Soldier 150-1
Reata's Rocket 150-1
Rutledge Cat 150-1
Grand Alibi 150-1
Incriminate 150-1
Marina Market 150-1
Dominican 150-1
City Snitch 150-1
Adore the Gold 150-1
Bella Shambrock 150-1
Tom Rickey 150-1
Appealing Zophie 150-1
Big Timer 150-1
Cape Bird 175-1
Chancellor 200-1
Clifton Park 200-1
Chief's Lake 200-1
Dubious Miss 200-1
Divide and Conquer 200-1
Curvature 200-1
Datrick 200-1
Bullara 200-1
Bleniem 200-1
Boogie Boggs 200-1
Air Lord 200-1
Admiral Bird 200-1
A Question 200-1
Baltimore Drive 200-1
Marked Warrior 200-1
Meet At Jacks 200-1
Jedoum 200-1
Gunfight 200-1
Ididn'tdoanything 200-1
I'm A Numbers Guy 200-1
Got A Question 200-1
Forty Grams 200-1
Elusive Value 200-1
Sacrifice Bunt 200-1
Sahara Heat 200-1
Profiteer 200-1
Quietly Mine 200-1
Red Giant 200-1
Revival Ridge 200-1
Rhapsodybohemian 200-1
Righteous 200-1
River Echo 200-1
No Reply 200-1
Most Distinguished 200-1
My Golden Opinion 200-1
Longley 200-1
Malt Magic 200-1
Pleasant Strike 200-1
Point of Reason 200-1
Premier Perfection 200-1
Straight Faced 200-1
Son of the West 200-1
Spark of Dubai 200-1
Spectacular Malibu 200-1
Sir Whimsey 200-1
Turquoise N Gold 200-1
Touchdown Peyton 200-1
Tony Terrific 200-1
Torini 200-1
Trading Star 200-1
Summer Doldrums 200-1
Temple Street 200-1
Streets Ahead 200-1
Strike A Deal 200-1
Timber Reserve 200-1
Starbase 200-1
Whatsthescript 200-1
Yesbyjimminy 250-1
Wafi City 250-1
Caped For Flight 250-1
Kong's Revenge 300-1
Tiz A Wizard 300-1
Senior 300-1
Unusual Suspect 300-1
Indian Camp 500-1

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i'd take 75-1 on pegasus wind... lukas will have this guy ready to run this spring..

[Rudeboyelvis]

I'd take a 10.00 flyer on Green Vegas at 75-1. And for the hell of it, I'd put 5 beans on I'm a Numbers Guy at 200-1.

Why not?

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

http://drf.com/news/article/81781.html i got some swampland and some bridges for sale if anyone is interested

TOUCHE!!!!

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i'd take 75-1 on pegasus wind... lukas will have this guy ready to run this spring..

Are you kidding me??? Maybe you are unaware of his performance yesterday.

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'd need a lot more than 75-1 to put any money on him.

Same thing goes for 75-1 shot The Green Monkey. I'm amazed at what odds he got. Who even knows where this "joker" is?

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i did not see him run yesterday.... now im aware... hope he can regroup i think hes very talented

[Danzig]

hard spun had some coughing, but scoped clean. jones thought bad weather was on the way, and planned to work him monday, rather than sunday as he originally planned.
but, bad weather stayed away, hard spun worked sunday as scheduled. either goes back to fairgrounds, or will stay in hot springs and run in the southwest a week later....

gee, i don't know--he might want to go to LA, and avoid pegasus wind

[lemoncrush]

I believe these odds below are for discussion only.
LetitRide.com doesn't take futures bets (as far as I know).
They do have a horse stable contest for the derby (similar to Road to the Roses, but not as in depth) and I believe that's what these odds reflect.

I've seen odds from Casinos like The Palms and Wynn, and these odds aren't consistent with what's actually being offered.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

I believe these odds below are for discussion only.
LetitRide.com doesn't take futures bets (as far as I know).
They do have a horse stable contest for the derby (similar to Road to the Roses, but not as in depth) and I believe that's what these odds reflect.

I've seen odds from Casinos like The Palms and Wynn, and these odds aren't consistent with what's actually being offered.

The future odds posted on letitiride.com "correlate with the Las Vegas Hilton Future Book Challenges" according to their web site. So, I'm guessing you can get those odds if you bet through the Hilton Casino.

[cakes44]

Hard to believe Pegasus Wind ran poorly after only 3 5f workouts. Lukas did the same thing with Folklore last year. She lost her comeback race, got hurt, and never ran again. I look for this horse to be screwed up in much the same manner.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

No odds on those 2 crazy kids called Tiago n' Spankey Come Home? Those 2 both showed more desire than 99% of other horses.I know Tiago is just gunna get better each race.

[blackthroatedwind]

I just want to be able to book those odds....all of 'em.

I'm trying to decide which is more appealing, 40-1 on Lawrence the Roman, or 50-1 on Teuflesburg.

Then again, 75-1 on Pegasus Wind is pretty hilarious as well. And, I'm sure there are quite a few posters here running to get 75-1 on Pink Viper.

I'm highly suspicious that Abe made these odds.

[blackthroatedwind]

Even better....7-1 on Nobiz.

Yeah, I want a little 7-1 on a horse three months before a race where if EVERYTHING goes perfectly, and he runs impressively in both all his preps, he might be as low as 5-2 the day of the race.

Now THERE'S value.

[ManilaRose]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

I believe these odds below are for discussion only.
LetitRide.com doesn't take futures bets (as far as I know).
They do have a horse stable contest for the derby (similar to Road to the Roses, but not as in depth) and I believe that's what these odds reflect.

I've seen odds from Casinos like The Palms and Wynn, and these odds aren't consistent with what's actually being offered.

You are correct that letitride doesn't take wagers but it stated on the site that these odds were from the Las Vegas Hilton future book as Zippy stated above. I have noticed the odds at Wynn Las Vegas being a bit different than at the Hilton.

[Dunbar]

Of more interest to me is the Kentucky Derby Future Wager. Pool 1 will be open for betting Feb 8-11.

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36652

The Future Wager is a parimutual pool with 23 individual horses plus a Field" entry ("All other 3-yr-olds"). The takeout is the same as Churchill Downs's 16%, so finding a good bet is not impossible.

Like most futures, if your horse doesn't start, you lose.

--Dunbar

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just want to be able to book those odds....all of 'em.

I'm trying to decide which is more appealing, 40-1 on Lawrence the Roman, or 50-1 on Teuflesburg.

Then again, 75-1 on Pegasus Wind is pretty hilarious as well. And, I'm sure there are quite a few posters here running to get 75-1 on Pink Viper.

I'm highly suspicious that Abe made these odds.

They took a bath on Smarty Jones (I talked to the bookmaker at the Palms about it) and they've adjusted to the point where there's absolutely no value in trying the future boards in Vegas.

A horse like Hard Spun would have been 50-1 at this point 3 years ago... now he's 12-1.

[MaTH716]

Is that 75-1 on the Green Monkey for him to win the derby or just for him to run in a race?

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i dont think 50-1 on lawrence the roman is that bad great breeding great connections and undefeated