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Old 11-06-2006, 01:04 PM
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Am I the only one who got a little teary-eyed watching the trailer? I'm really looking forward to seeing the TV movie.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:05 PM
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Am I the only one who got a little teary-eyed watching the trailer? I'm really looking forward to seeing the TV movie.
Nope, I did too...
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:05 PM
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It didnt move me but it looks better than I thought it would.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:10 PM
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I really want to see it. But dang if I am not going to have to have a box of tissues next to me while I watch it.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:15 PM
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Bill Nack (Sports Illustrated et al.) is a prime character in the movie. His Secretariat work is awesome.

I think that it was handicapper/author Steve Davidowitz who wrote that she might have been the best Thoroughbred EVER up to seven furlongs. (Not that she wasn't great at all distances, but we didn't see enough to judge.)

Also, apparently, Foolish Pleasure's trainer, Leroy Jolley, was a terrible sport after the match race. I wonder if that part is in the movie.

It will be an interesting movie, for she is not a known quantity outside of racing circles.

Great name for a race horse, no?

Frank Whaley was glad he got to play Nack and not Davidowitz.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:17 PM
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Bill Nack (Sports Illustrated et al.) is a prime character in the movie. His Secretariat work is awesome.

It will be an interesting movie, for she is not a known quantity outside of racing circles.

Great name for a race horse, no?
That's great about Bill Nack-- I always thought if they were going to do a movie about her they would need a major character outside her inner circle for the audience to identify with. Glad to hear they picked up on my psychic vibes...

A lot of the volunteers at the Central Park Zoo (where I work) remember her very well-- might be because she was a New York horse, I don't know, but they remember the match race. One of them started to cry just talking to me about it. So some people outside racing remember her. I hope they tune in to see the movie!

It is a great name for a race horse; I agree.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:18 PM
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Who would play Davidowitz? I spoke to him at Pimlico a few years ago, but no one is coming to mind... yet.

I can only get into trouble answering that one.

I saw a bunch of clips for the movie at a luncheon for it at Belmont last Spring. Should be fun. I think it is the first movie made by ESPN that will be shown on ABC.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:19 PM
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I didn't see Davidowitz listed as a character in the film. Here's the full cast list, according to IMDB:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0499558/fullcredits
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:20 PM
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It was a joke.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:26 PM
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It looked very good, but I'm scared to see it because I'm a big softie...
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:31 PM
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It was a joke.
Oh. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.... ha?

Hee hee. My bad.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:32 PM
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I never said it was a funny one.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:34 PM
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I never said it was a funny one.
But your last response definitely is. Very quick; well done, sir. Me like funny posts.
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This movie's end is a tragedy. Won't people look even more down on horse racing if they see this?
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:55 PM
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This movie's end is a tragedy. Won't people look even more down on horse racing if they see this?
Depends how its delivered to non-racing fans. If the emphasis in on the majesty, talent, and brave heart of the filly, than it wont hurt as much. If the story is truly all about the build to the breakdown and no real story after that, then it fails to help the sport.

One quote i've always held with me is "Without pain there'd be no compassion". She's the equine eqivalent of that for me.
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:04 PM
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Am I the only one who got a little teary-eyed watching the trailer? I'm really looking forward to seeing the TV movie.
No I did too, seeing it rehashed all those awful memories again, I so clearly remember that nightmare!
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:09 PM
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That's great about Bill Nack-- I always thought if they were going to do a movie about her they would need a major character outside her inner circle for the audience to identify with. Glad to hear they picked up on my psychic vibes...

A lot of the volunteers at the Central Park Zoo (where I work) remember her very well-- might be because she was a New York horse, I don't know, but they remember the match race. One of them started to cry just talking to me about it. So some people outside racing remember her. I hope they tune in to see the movie!

It is a great name for a race horse; I agree.
Ruffian was bigger than life, I grew up in California and let me tell you her races were covered prominently in the sports pages out here, and in fact her death made the headline, and I'm talking in big black print. Ruffian was a VERY much loved horse, even the Surgical Hospital where my mare was having surgery has a big framed painting of her in the Waiting Room with a very moving tribute to her, and this is 30 plus years later.!
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:48 PM
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Depends how its delivered to non-racing fans. If the emphasis in on the majesty, talent, and brave heart of the filly, than it wont hurt as much. If the story is truly all about the build to the breakdown and no real story after that, then it fails to help the sport.

One quote i've always held with me is "Without pain there'd be no compassion". She's the equine eqivalent of that for me.
I think Balletto's right in that if it's handled right, I think it won't necessarily turn people off. I liked in the trailer how one of the actors was comparing Ruffian to James Dean, Marilyn Monroe-- silly on one level, yes, but on another level, it sets up an image of an incredible talent who burned so brightly but so briefly- which is a dramatic universality people can connect with. If they can convey that kind of idea-- an athlete who too rare and too special to last, I think it will convey the tragedy without turning into an opportunity for bashing horse racing.

My battered paperback copy of Jane Schwartz' book has a blurb from the Seattle Times' review: "Compelling, informative and ultimately touching. This is a first-class book; Ruffian deserves no less." Fingers crossed we'll be saying the same thing about the movie!
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:49 PM
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Not, of course, that we'd be saying the movie is a book. Then we'd be stupid. Or the movie was really boring.

Not that books are boring, of course. I happen to own several.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:24 PM
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Depends how its delivered to non-racing fans. If the emphasis in on the majesty, talent, and brave heart of the filly, than it wont hurt as much. If the story is truly all about the build to the breakdown and no real story after that, then it fails to help the sport.

One quote i've always held with me is "Without pain there'd be no compassion". She's the equine eqivalent of that for me.
This sport needs to help itself. In some ways it is by finally introducing poly instead of that evil dirt.

Way, way more needs to be done to weed out and punish the frauds, crooks and cheats in this sport. And eliminate that cruel dirt surface. That will help the sport the most, instead of pining for a sugarcoated movie about a great horse that rose way ABOVE the sport.
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