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Old 09-28-2006, 02:54 PM
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Question Jockey % Question?

IF you took say Prado, Gomez, and Velazquez and they are each hitting at over a 20% clip and their in the money % is over 50% wouldn't this mean that 60% of the time when all 3 are in 1 race one of them is gonna win? Also for tri's and ex boxes looks like the % are in the players favor based upon the odds but watching Prado and Gomez ride today with Johnny V taking the day off it doesn't matter their odds one of them is usally winning.

Same rules would apply to Nakatani Espinoza and Solis on the West
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:01 PM
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IF you took say Prado, Gomez, and Velazquez and they are each hitting at over a 20% clip and their in the money % is over 50% wouldn't this mean that 60% of the time when all 3 are in 1 race one of them is gonna win? Also for tri's and ex boxes looks like the % are in the players favor based upon the odds but watching Prado and Gomez ride today with Johnny V taking the day off it doesn't matter their odds one of them is usally winning.

Same rules would apply to Nakatani Espinoza and Solis on the West

If 3 riders win at a 20% rate, and they are all in the same race together, and we assume the odds of the mounts are always the same ( thus every one is actually 20% to win ) then the chances that none of them win is .8 x .8 x .8, in theory only, which is 51.2% of the time. So, in this case, one of them will win 48.8% of the time.

However, their actual odds are more reflective, as every situation is NOT the same. Suppose for whatever reason they are all riding horses at roughly 8-1...clearly they are not nearly as likely to be successful at if at least 2 of them are under 5-2.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:06 PM
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Lose=G,
I forget who said it here, i'm thinking "O"...
Bet the horse, not the jockey.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:07 PM
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Obviously, their % aren't the same 20% when they all ride in the same race. I wouldn't mind seeing their percentages when all 3 are in the same race though.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:08 PM
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However, I would much rather see what the lowly Mike Luzzi's % is when he gets to ride against all of the big 3.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:08 PM
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I put $25 to win on all their remaining mounts starting in the 7th race, i hope this works.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:52 PM
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Cha Ching $$$$

Invested $100 on their four mounts and just got back $147.50 and i just heard that gomez is in the last so now either way i still win! I will make at the lowest $22.50. Comeon i am fighting for my life here! Thats from Oracle!

The horse in the last ended up scratching so i still made almost fifty bucks, gonna stay with this stratagy!

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