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Old 01-09-2012, 12:56 PM
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Quarter horse racing network (and sometimes even thoroughbreds too!) TVG is airing a Racing Roundtable on Jan 20 at 8 PM where the topic will be TVG Programming.

You can email questions to roundtable@tvg.com beforehand that you wish to be addressed.

Hopefully they get a lot of help.

HRTV Handicappers Jeff Siegal, Brad Free, and Kurt Hoover do more work for one typical segment than almost all of the TVG talent do in a month.

And on top of that -- those guys often have opinions about races and don't take a horrible middling position on everything. Nor do they try and be funny despite the fact that they have no future at all in comedy.

At the minimum -- they need to go out and find people who could be useful if they tried. Find people who take different angles. Go get a clocker from each coast. Get a sheets player. Get a competent trip handicapper to come on each morning. Get a pace handicapper (or teach Matt Carouthers more advanced pace methods) They have a good enough pedigree guy already in Rich Perloff.

There are so many things they could do to get much better -- but that would be a simple start.

The racing product we got on local cable in Erie in the entire decade of the 90's was laughably superior to TVG.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:53 PM
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I accidently turned the channel to TVG (meant to hit HRTV to see what was happening at SA and hit the wrong channel) during the football game commercials and had to laugh when I saw the only racing they were showing on a Sunday afternoon/evening, was Sunland.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:06 PM
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I have no idea whether their ADW is a money maker for them or not, but I haven't watched since Hollywood ended and don't intend on tuning in again until Keeneland starts.

I really don't have any interest in their on-air personalities - I couldn't care less what any of them say, though I do hold Free and Seigel in very high regard especially when discussing CA racing (obvoiusly on HRTV).

The only value TVG offers is when Christine Olivares is in the paddock (preferably in a short skirt and a low cut sweater) and is interviewing the trainers/connections - for instance, if you're fortunate enough to catch him - Peter Miller usually gives out very credible information regarding the other entrants and how he sees the race... usually give out a horse or two that don't necessarily show up on the form as worth using, but almost always out run their odds.. Besides that, I don't mind the other on air types, but would be just fine with a straight simulcast feed and none of the pablum.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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On the rare occasion when I work at home or near a desk, I sometimes run the feed of British racing off of twinspires. They really do a fine job of showing multiple tracks with limited BS. They usually have one fairly knowledgeable talking head, then right before each race, they cut to the live track commentary. You never see the person talking, only the horses and odds. It's an excellent model in my opinion.
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:56 PM
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They really need help. They are doing a Pick 4 central for tomorrow's harness card at Woodbine as their next race isn't for another 65 minutes.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:30 AM
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Mr. B Should tell stories about his stint in the navy. Talk about riveting television. Or how about Vic sharing his day to day with plenty of sexual innuendo. Hawt
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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Topics:
Friday 1/20 - Programming
Friday 1/27 - Exchange Wagering
Friday 2/3 - State of Racing

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...able-on-friday
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:52 PM
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Topics #1 through all of them should be about their programming.

Have any of the on-air employees ever traded on exchange wagering sites? Was it Greg Wolfe who was making odds and dueling hard with me on offshore exchanges on Monday nights at Mountaineer and Tuseday mid-afternoons at Turf Paradise back in the day?
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:18 PM
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what a mess.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:04 PM
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i just watched that whole show. nothing earth-shatterring.

same questions that ive been hearing for a while like...

why can't i bet in nebraska?

why do you charge .25c for a bet?

why isn't mountaineer on?

blah, blah
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:20 PM
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I had to laugh during that show tonight. Do you really think they care about network programming? It seems all they care about is Los Al and that's it. Heck, they don't even show a full card from Parx on a Tuesday instead showing a bunch of $5 track handles.

I also got a crack out of saying they were the only place you could watch certain tracks. Hello? Almost any serious horse/trot/dog bettor has a decent computer at home to watch the in-house feeds. Not to mention those feeds in recent months have become 7-12 seconds faster that what you are showing on TV.

All betfair cares about is there exchange wagering and that is it. They also probably want sports betting with it too.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:24 PM
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I had to laugh during that show tonight. Do you really think they care about network programming? It seems all they care about is Los Al and that's it. Heck, they don't even show a full card from Parx on a Tuesday instead showing a bunch of $5 track handles.

I also got a crack out of saying they were the only place you could watch certain tracks. Hello? Almost any serious horse/trot/dog bettor has a decent computer at home to watch the in-house feeds. Not to mention those feeds in recent months have become 7-12 seconds faster that what you are showing on TV.

All betfair cares about is there exchange wagering and that is it. They also probably want sports betting with it too.
they care about making money. the more you (novice betters) lose following their picks, the more they win.

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