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Old 08-10-2010, 08:44 AM
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Sending a Islamic iman on the taxpayer dime on a luxury road trip to Saudi Arabia and Dubai over protecting our own border. I'd think what AZ is doing would be appreciated by the Feds as aiding a cash strapped Gov. but the fact is Obama & Co. despise immigration laws and refuse to enforce them. The oath he took when he took office means about as much as the turd this joke of a President flushed down this morning.



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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...king-illegals/
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Fingerprint Deportation: Homeland Security Deports 47,000 Immigrants
SUZANNE GAMBOA | 08/10/10 11:32 AM | Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Records show that about 47,000 people were removed or deported from the U.S. after the Homeland Security Department sifted through 3 million sets of fingerprints taken from bookings at local jails.

About one-quarter of those kicked out of the country did not have criminal records, according to government data obtained by immigration advocacy groups that filed a lawsuit. The groups plan to release the data Tuesday and provided early copies to The Associated Press.

At issue is a fingerprint-sharing program known as Secure Communities that the government says is focused on getting rid of the "worst of the worst" criminal immigrants from the U.S.

Immigration advocates say that the government instead spends too much time on lower-level criminals or non-criminals.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement divides crimes into three categories, with Level 1 being the most serious. Level 1 crimes include actions that threaten or compromise national security, murder, rape, drug crimes punishable by more than one year and even resisting arrest.

Most of those deported committed Level 2 or 3 crimes or were non-criminals, a monthly report of Secure Communities statistics shows.

"ICE has pulled a bait and switch, with local law enforcement spending more time and resources facilitating the deportations of bus boys and gardeners than murderers and rapists and at considerable cost to local community policing strategies, making us all less safe," said Peter Markowitz, director of the Immigration Justice Clinic at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York.

Markowitz's clinic, the National Day Laborer Organizers Network and the Center for Constitutional Rights had requested and sued for the statistics. Immigration and Customs Enforcement posted some of the documents on its website late Monday.

Richard Rocha, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman, said non-criminals still may be people who have failed to show up for deportation hearings, who recently crossed the border illegally or who re-entered the country after deportation. He also said it's important to remember that more people commit crimes that are considered Level 2 and 3.
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Secure Communities is "a beneficial partnership tool for ICE and state and local law enforcement agencies helping to identify, prioritize and remove convicted criminal aliens not only from the communities, but also from the country," Rocha said.

The Obama administration wants Secure Communities operating nationwide by 2013.


As of Aug. 3, 494 counties and local and state agencies in 27 states were sharing fingerprints from jail bookings through the program.

From October 2008 through June of this year, 46,929 people identified through Secure Communities were removed from the U.S., the documents show. Of those, 12,293 were considered non-criminals.


California had the highest percentage of immigrants deported who had committed Level 1 crimes, with 38 percent of a total 14,823 immigrants sent out of the country, according to statistics from 24 states participating by the end of June. In Georgia, 39 percent of 624 immigrants removed were non-criminals, the highest rate among the states.
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Sending a Islamic iman on the taxpayer dime on a luxury road trip to Saudi Arabia and Dubai over protecting our own border. I'd think what AZ is doing would be appreciated by the Feds as aiding a cash strapped Gov. but the fact is Obama & Co. despise immigration laws and refuse to enforce them. The oath he took when he took office means about as much as the turd this joke of a President flushed down this morning.



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...pxbaKvJbB4VLGM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...king-illegals/
Odumbass and company despising immigration? Wow thats a new one on me. Im just waiting to see if he tries to give these f ing illegals amnesty. Wouldnt suprise if he did. Arizona should be complimented on what they are trying to do.
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"ICE has pulled a bait and switch, with local law enforcement spending more time and resources facilitating the deportations of bus boys and gardeners than murderers and rapists and at considerable cost to local community policing strategies, making us all less safe," said Peter Markowitz, director of the Immigration Justice Clinic at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York.

Markowitz's clinic, the National Day Laborer Organizers Network and the Center for Constitutional Rights

Richard Rocha, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman,

Secure Communities is "a beneficial partnership tool for ICE and state and local law enforcement agencies helping to identify, prioritize and remove convicted criminal aliens not only from the communities, but also from the country," Rocha said.

The Obama administration wants Secure Communities operating nationwide by 2013.
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National Day Laborer Organizers Network and the Center for Constitutional Rights

Richard Rocha, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman



The union that represents rank-and-file field agents at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has unanimously passed a "vote of no confidence" for the agency's leadership, saying ICE has "abandoned" its core mission of protecting the public to support a political agenda favoring amnesty.

The National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents 7,000 ICE agents and employees, voted 259-0 for a resolution saying there was "growing dissatisfaction and concern" over the leadership of Assistant Secretary John Morton, who heads ICE, and Phyllis Coven, assistant director for the agency's office of detention policy and planning

The statement also noted that:

• The majority of ICE's enforcement and removal officers are prohibited from making street arrests or enforcing U.S. immigration laws outside of the jail setting.

• Hundreds of ICE officers nationwide perform no law enforcement duties whatsoever because of resource mismanagement within the agency.

• ICE detention reforms have transformed into a detention system aimed at providing resortlike living conditions to criminal aliens based on recommendations not from ICE officers and field managers, but from "special-interest groups."

• The lack of technical expertise and field experience has resulted in a priority of providing bingo nights, dance lessons and hanging plants to criminals, instead of addressing safe and responsible detention reforms for noncriminal individuals and families.


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Dell ... read both of those things again (both articles) and try to fit them together
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Odumbass and company despising immigration? Wow thats a new one on me. Im just waiting to see if he tries to give these f ing illegals amnesty. Wouldnt suprise if he did. Arizona should be complimented on what they are trying to do.
Every President has been in favor of amnesty programs, including the Republican ones.

Maybe you could dampen down the xenophobic hate long enough to figure out why that is.

Naw. Won't happen.
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Every President has been in favor of amnesty programs, including the Republican ones.

Maybe you could dampen down the xenophobic hate long enough to figure out why that is.

Naw. Won't happen.

Has unemployment improved like he said it would with his stimulus package? Looks like it went up. Hopefully November 2012 will be a great month for America. Do you like my new avatar?
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Has unemployment improved like he said it would with his stimulus package? Looks like it went up. Hopefully November 2012 will be a great month for America. Do you like my new avatar?
Some would argue that without stimulus we would be in far far worse shape and truly be in a depression which means unemployment would be far worse. Any argument to the contrary can't be proven or disproven since this is real life not a video game. There are no simulations or do overs. These wars are killing us.. We are making the same mistake that the Soviets made in Afghanistan. It drove that country bankrupt and it threatens to drive us bankrupt.
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Dell ... read both of those things again (both articles) and try to fit them together


The first article stumbles all over itself. While it starts with “Records show that about 47,000 people were removed or deported from the U.S. after the Homeland Security Department sifted through 3 million sets of fingerprints taken from bookings at local jails.

About one-quarter of those kicked out of the country did not have criminal records, according to government data obtained by immigration advocacy groups that filed a lawsuit.”


Then it continues with an explanation “Immigration advocates say that the government instead spends too much time on lower-level criminals or non-criminals.”

"ICE has pulled a bait and switch, with local law enforcement spending more time and resources facilitating the deportations of bus boys and gardeners than murderers and rapists and at considerable cost to local community policing strategies, making us all less safe," said Peter Markowitz,”

Now if the search began with ‘booking records from local jails’ it’s fairly safe to say very close to 100% were booked on some sort of crime. So of those 47,000 deported (a drop in the bucket over 2 years) close to almost 100% where charged with a crime in addition to being here illegally.

To try and fit the two articles together is akin to jamming a square peg thru the round hole. IMO
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Some would argue that without stimulus we would be in far far worse shape and truly be in a depression which means unemployment would be far worse. Any argument to the contrary can't be proven or disproven since this is real life not a video game. There are no simulations or do overs. These wars are killing us.. We are making the same mistake that the Soviets made in Afghanistan. It drove that country bankrupt and it threatens to drive us bankrupt.
I agree with you big time about these wars. The wars are taking away money that could go to something worthy. It is also possible that this country could be in worse shape without the stimulus.


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Every President has been in favor of amnesty programs, including the Republican ones.

Maybe you could dampen down the xenophobic hate long enough to figure out why that is.

Naw. Won't happen.

Whatever
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Actually, yes, it suits you well
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49K illegals deported over 2 years LMAO. What's their budget?

Give me $1,000 per illegal and watch what the private sector can do.

60 minimum a day and won't leave Chicago for 2 months.
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