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Old 02-02-2010, 12:24 PM
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:54 PM
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The White House told Reuters to pull the story. They did.

Here's one website that cached it:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...p?format=print

February 2, 2010 Posted by Scott at 10:13 AM
Drudge flags the Reuters story on the Obama administration's planned middle class tax increases. Reuters reports: "The Obama administration's plan to cut more than $1 trillion from the deficit over the next decade relies heavily on so-called backdoor tax increases that will result in a bigger tax bill for middle-class families." It's an impressive list. Does the administration contemplate that these tax increases might have an adverse impact on incentives to work and invest? I doubt it, but they will.
Now Drudge also flags the withdrawal of the Reuters story. The only explanation provided is that "[a] replacement story will run later in the week." Here is the text of the withdrawn Reuters story:
The Obama administration's plan to cut more than $1 trillion from the deficit over the next decade relies heavily on so-called backdoor tax increases that will result in a bigger tax bill for middle-class families.
In the 2010 budget tabled by President Barack Obama on Monday, the White House wants to let billions of dollars in tax breaks expire by the end of the year -- effectively a tax hike by stealth.
While the administration is focusing its proposal on eliminating tax breaks for individuals who earn $250,000 a year or more, middle-class families will face a slew of these backdoor increases.
The targeted tax provisions were enacted under the Bush administration's Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001. Among other things, the law lowered individual tax rates, slashed taxes on capital gains and dividends, and steadily scaled back the estate tax to zero in 2010.
If the provisions are allowed to expire on December 31, the top-tier personal income tax rate will rise to 39.6 percent from 35 percent. But lower-income families will pay more as well: the 25 percent tax bracket will revert back to 28 percent; the 28 percent bracket will increase to 31 percent; and the 33 percent bracket will increase to 36 percent. The special 10 percent bracket is eliminated.
Investors will pay more on their earnings next year as well, with the tax on dividends jumping to 39.6 percent from 15 percent and the capital-gains tax increasing to 20 percent from 15 percent. The estate tax is eliminated this year, but it will return in 2011 -- though there has been talk about reinstating the death tax sooner.
Millions of middle-class households already may be facing higher taxes in 2010 because Congress has failed to extend tax breaks that expired on January 1, most notably a "patch" that limited the impact of the alternative minimum tax. The AMT, initially designed to prevent the very rich from avoiding income taxes, was never indexed for inflation. Now the tax is affecting millions of middle-income households, but lawmakers have been reluctant to repeal it because it has become a key source of revenue.
Without annual legislation to renew the patch this year, the AMT could affect an estimated 25 million taxpayers with incomes as low as $33,750 (or $45,000 for joint filers). Even if the patch is extended to last year's levels, the tax will hit American families that can hardly be considered wealthy -- the AMT exemption for 2009 was $46,700 for singles and $70,950 for married couples filing jointly.
The Reuters story then sets forth a hodgepodge of tax breaks that are set to expire:
Middle-class families also will find fewer tax breaks available to them in 2010 if other popular tax provisions are allowed to expire. Among them:
* Taxpayers who itemize will lose the option to deduct state sales-tax payments instead of state and local income taxes;
* The $250 teacher tax credit for classroom supplies;
* The tax deduction for up to $4,000 of college tuition and expenses;
* Individuals who don't itemize will no longer be able to increase their standard deduction by up to $1,000 for property taxes paid;
* The first $2,400 of unemployment benefits are taxable, in 2009 that amount was tax-free.
The planned increases on income, dividends, and capital gains are a particularly important story. Donald Lambro conveys Arthur Laffer's warning concerning the 2011 tax increases. Laffer predicts that the planned tax increases "will make the decline in U.S. output from 2010 to 2011 worse than the decline in output in 2008 and 2009 which will [be] catastrophic." He adds that "[i]n anticipation of known tax increases the economy will shift income and output from 2011 -- the higher tax year -- into 2010 -- the lower tax year. As a result of this income shift, 2010 will look a lot better than it should, and 2011 will be a train wreck."
Insufficient attention has been paid to the necessity of relief from the coming increases in income tax rates, capital gains and dividends. The Reuters story does a service in drawing attention to the imminence and severity of these increases.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:48 PM
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reuters pulled the story acknowledging it was factually inaccurate.

is that a white house generated conspiracy or responsible journalism?

i know it's a tough question for a regular viewer of fox but i wanted to ask anyway.

timm posts a discredited link. not a shocker. but then you try to revive it.

i don't care what anyone else says. you are an idiot.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:43 AM
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If the taxes turn out to be implemented just like the story says, then who's the idiot? We'll have to wait and see.

I'm sure your reaction would have been the same if the Bush white house had placed the pressure to retract the story.

Have anything else to offer besides name calling, or are you that empty of a barrel yourself?
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:53 AM
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Higgy...you're a elitist hack. I posted the link...then they took it down for revision.
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Old 02-03-2010, 12:59 PM
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If the taxes turn out to be implemented just like the story says, then who's the idiot? We'll have to wait and see.

I'm sure your reaction would have been the same if the Bush white house had placed the pressure to retract the story.

Have anything else to offer besides name calling, or are you that empty of a barrel yourself?
Seriously Joey..the right wingers here ( not necessarily you) and on other forums lead the way in that category.
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:02 PM
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I'm sure that some of the right wingers do that, and it's equally not constructive. I'm not for that, and I don't do it when not provoked either.

How about this part of what I said though Bob, does this ring true or not?

"I'm sure your reaction would have been the same if the Bush white house had placed the pressure to retract the story."
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:23 PM
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I'm sure that some of the right wingers do that, and it's equally not constructive. I'm not for that, and I don't do it when not provoked either.

How about this part of what I said though Bob, does this ring true or not?

"I'm sure your reaction would have been the same if the Bush white house had placed the pressure to retract the story."
That's not the point..It's pot-kettle-black on who calls who retards, loons, idiots etc, etc, etc...
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The leadership of this country has been fiscally irresponsible for 10 years. Appears that ain't changing any time soon.
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The leadership of this country has been fiscally irresponsible for 10 years. Appears that ain't changing any time soon.
Much longer than that: irresponsible fiscal leadership started with the passage of the Income Tax and was well underway by the time that genius FDR thought up the "Social Security" Ponzi scheme.

You'd have to go back to the turn of the (last) century, 1900, and prior for when we truly only spent a sum less than we brought in. That's the definition of true fiscal conservatism. That's the way each one of us runs our own affairs unless we want to go bankrupt in a real sense -- not Chapter 11.

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Old 02-08-2010, 06:43 AM
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and some say one president is more guilty than another, or one party-but congress isn't even considered? so easy to spend other peoples money, and nowhere is that more in evidence than with our government.
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