I Have a question (to the NYRA faithful)

[the_fat_man]

When does the REAL racing start up there?

People aren't expected to play TODAY'S card, are they?

[stonegossard]

I couldn't leave you hanging. Wanted you to have at least one response in this lonely thread.

So here's my response............................














Stick to betting 3rd rate tracks like Woodbine and quit your constant whining. Change your diaper, get a new bib, buy a few new rattles for yourself..........do whatever needs to be done. Just quit crying already.

I think you need a "time out".

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

When does the REAL racing start up there?

People aren't expected to play TODAY'S card, are they?

The mega 12,500 Mdn Claimers today had me wet in the pantsy. Nobody questions your talent just your take on the game.. It's OK when you come to your senses there is a wonderful place were you can be the fat man and people will appreciate you.. Let me know when you are ready,,,we can all work together..

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The mega 12,500 Mdn Claimers today had me wet in the pantsy. Nobody questions your talent just your take on the game.. It's OK when you come to your senses there is a wonderful place were you can be the fat man and people will appreciate you.. Let me know when you are ready,,,we can all work together..

Okay,I will question both his talent and take on the game.You obviously never read his twitter bullshit.It's hilarious!!

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

Okay,I will question both his talent and take on the game.You obviously never read his twitter bullshit.It's hilarious!!

Consider yourself lucky for not being blocked

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

Okay,I will question both his talent and take on the game.You obviously never read his twitter bullshit.It's hilarious!!

You have a $25 winner; a $70 exacta (2 number); a $100 exacta (6 number); and a $132 exacta (4 number) ; out of a limited number of plays on my page.

Match it, Doofus.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Consider yourself lucky for not being blocked

Were you the one that mentioned Tomlinson?

That's a ****in no no.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The mega 12,500 Mdn Claimers today had me wet in the pantsy. Nobody questions your talent just your take on the game.. It's OK when you come to your senses there is a wonderful place were you can be the fat man and people will appreciate you.. Let me know when you are ready,,,we can all work together..

Do you realize that WO has a higher purse structure than SAR? Have you taken a look at WO? This is professionally run track. Their turf course is probably the best in the business. They have Trakus, and one of their commentators is every bit as good as Serling. Their racing secretary actually understands that a healthy variety in distance makes for interesting racing.

Do any of you Doofus have any idea as to the many betting opportunities at other tracks? I'm not wed to NYRA. If their races aren't a fit I play elsewhere. And, I got tired of wasting my valuable time handicapping races that came off the turf.

And that their product is now very, very regular is pretty much obvious.

[CSC]

Saying Woodbine is a 3rd rate track is not an accurate statement, it would be like saying it is on par with Mountaineer or Prairie Meadows, I'm not saying this to be adversarial but this is simply not a factual statement. The track has currently 3 grade 1's The Canadian International, the Woodbine Mile and The EP Taylor, The Northern Dancer I will have to check to see if it's still gr.1 status, various Gr.2 races plus restricted big stake events. 3rd rate I don't think so.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I couldn't leave you hanging. Wanted you to have at least one response in this lonely thread.

So here's my response............................














Stick to betting 3rd rate tracks like Woodbine and quit your constant whining. Change your diaper, get a new bib, buy a few new rattles for yourself..........do whatever needs to be done. Just quit crying already.

I think you need a "time out".

Saratoga is supposed to be the most prestigous meet in the USA. I think TFM has a point here. The real pathetic card is FRIDAYS. It is easily the worst card I have ever saw at Saratoga. I go both ways on this, I wont complain like some people I will just play other tracks, but that does not mean TFM is wrong.... Thursday's card was ok at best, Fridays is pathetic and Saturdays besides the 3 stakes races is horrible.

Things do get better on Sunday.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I couldn't leave you hanging. Wanted you to have at least one response in this lonely thread.

So here's my response............................














Stick to betting 3rd rate tracks like Woodbine and quit your constant whining. Change your diaper, get a new bib, buy a few new rattles for yourself..........do whatever needs to be done. Just quit crying already.

I think you need a "time out".

I'm not often in agreement with the fat man, though he is entertaining...but saying Woodbine is a third rate track is patently false. I've taken up playing Woodbine since the spring and it's been a pretty profitable venture. It's easy to dismiss it because it's not Saratoga, Santa Anita or Gulfstream or something, but you'd be surprised. It's no where near the level of true third rate establishments like Penn National, Suffolk, or Mountaineer.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Were you the one that mentioned Tomlinson?

That's a ****in no no.

He has a thing for Tomlinsons, its much worst then me with Beyers.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Do you realize that WO has a higher purse structure than SAR? Have you taken a look at WO? This is professionally run track. Their turf course is probably the best in the business. They have Trakus, and one of their commentators is every bit as good as Serling. Their racing secretary actually understands that a healthy variety in distance makes for interesting racing.

Do any of you Doofus have any idea as to the many betting opportunities at other tracks? I'm not wed to NYRA. If their races aren't a fit I play elsewhere. And, I got tired of wasting my valuable time handicapping races that came off the turf.

And that their product is now very, very regular is pretty much obvious.

I just pulled out my old form from 7/29, the last night I played WO. Race 4 $32k Claimer for fillies and mares 3 yr+ purse: $48,600. Race 5 $25k Md Claimer purse $31,400. Race 6 $25k open claimers purse $40,100.

TFM is on point here. If someone can tell me where in the US you have these kind of purses, I'd like to see it. This doesn't even do the purses justice because there were no maiden allowances etc in the P4 I played, but those purses usually check in between $65k and $80k.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Saratoga is supposed to be the most prestigous meet in the USA. I think TFM has a point here. The real pathetic card is FRIDAYS. It is easily the worst card I have ever saw at Saratoga. I go both ways on this, I wont complain like some people I will just play other tracks, but that does not mean TFM is wrong.... Thursday's card was ok at best, Fridays is pathetic and Saturdays besides the 3 stakes races is horrible.

Things do get better on Sunday.

Fman is misguided on one fact, Saratoga's opening 2 weeks has yielded some terrific racing filled with excellent prices, as for his point regarding Woodbine he is however correct.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Were you the one that mentioned Tomlinson?

That's a ****in no no.

What's my penance? 10 Donovan bashings?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by CSC

Fman is misguided on one fact, Saratoga's opening 2 weeks has yielded some terrific racing filled with excellent prices, as for his point regarding Woodbine he is however correct.

The bottom line is the overall racing at Saratoga from Today-Saturday is really bad. Friday really ruins it. I agree with him on todays card. I wont comment on Woodbine. I think the problem is people dont like how he says it. The cards today, Friday and most of Saturday simply SUCK. He is right about that, now if he says "Sunday sucks", then he's 100% wrong.

Sunday is loaded.

[NTamm1215]

I guess to each their own but the steady stream of full fields work out fine for me. What is so bad about Friday's card? The John's Call is one of the most competitive races they've had all meet. The opener is going to be a barn burner through the opening six furlongs. So there are two maiden claimers, big deal, the MSW for 2YOs later on the card is strong.

Horseplayers will b.itch about anything, that's an ironclad fact but if you're someone who likes big, competitive fields then the quality at Saratoga has been there since Day 1 of this meet.

I can't believe we're making a real comparison to Woodbine, who cards multiple 5-6 horse races on a daily basis. Look at the opening six races on Saturday at Woodbine...wow.

By the way, those purses at Woodbine are huge, but that's Canadian dollars. The exchange rate right now is about $.93 to the dollar.

NT

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I can't believe we're making a real comparison to Woodbine, who cards multiple 5-6 horse races on a daily basis. Look at the opening six races on Saturday at Woodbine...wow.

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

I'm disappointed, however. There's a ton of money to be made at other tracks/surfaces and I just can't understand why there's such a resistance to playing them.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

What's my penance? 10 Donovan bashings?

I just found the perfect Donovan horse: Written in Stone, WO R3 tomorrow. In tight the entire race. NEVER gets a chance to run. Who knows if he has talent but it appears that if he ever got room in the stretch last out he would've galloped.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

I'm disappointed, however. There's a ton of money to be made at other tracks/surfaces and I just can't understand why there's such a resistance to playing them.

Oh, I don't resist playing other tracks at all. In fact, I'll be at the local simulcast pitching away at Arlington this week and I think there's a mule I've been waiting for at Santa Rosa. What I don't get is the complaints about NYRA racing that are mostly flimsy.

NT