Current prices for Horses in Derby Future Wager, Pool 1

[Dunbar]

With Pool 2 of the Ky Derby Future Wager coming up next week, I thought it would be interesting to see what prices are currently available on the horses that were listed in Pool 1. In the list below, the first price is closing odds in Pool 1. The 2nd price is what's currently available at TheGreek.com. (There may be better odds available at another sportsbook or in Vegas, I didn't check around.)

1 Beethoven, 31, 35.5
2 Big Drama, 48, 80.5
3 Capt. Candyman Can, 25, 65.5
4 Chocolate Candy, 28, 35.5
5 Flying Pegasus, 28, out?
6 Friesan Fire, 18, 25.5
7 Giant Oak, 24, 25.5
8 Haynesfield, 32, 40.5
9 Hello Broadway, 30, 25.5
10 I Want Revenge, 54, 40.5
11 Midshipman, 19, out
12 Notonthesamepage , 40, out
13 Old Fashioned, 7, 7.25
14 Papa Clem, 44, 25.5
15 Patena, 22, 25.5
16 Pioneer of the Nile, 13, 16.15
17 Silver City, 35, out?
18 Stardom Bound, 22, 22.5
19 Taqarub, 46, out?
20 The Pamplemousse , 29, 14.15
21 This Ones For Phil, 44, out?
22 Vineyard Haven, 36 60.5,
23 West Side Bernie, 40, 35.5

Just 5 horses' odds are lower at TheGreek than in Pool 1. 11 horses' odds are higher. (I'm not sure about Old Fashioned--What was his WillPay?) 6 horses from Pool 1 are either off the Trail or nearly off.

Does any one have a list of the Pool 1 Will Pays? Both DRF and KentuckyDerby.com are now just showing the rounded odds.

--Dunbar

[Bobby Fischer]

dunkirk , desert party , quality road nowhere to be found

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

With Pool 2 of the Ky Derby Future Wager coming up next week, I thought it would be interesting to see what prices are currently available on the horses that were listed in Pool 1. In the list below, the first price is closing odds in Pool 1. The 2nd price is what's currently available at TheGreek.com. (There may be better odds available at another sportsbook or in Vegas, I didn't check around.)

1 Beethoven, 31, 35.5
2 Big Drama, 48, 80.5
3 Capt. Candyman Can, 25, 65.5
4 Chocolate Candy, 28, 35.5
5 Flying Pegasus, 28, out?
6 Friesan Fire, 18, 25.5
7 Giant Oak, 24, 25.5
8 Haynesfield, 32, 40.5
9 Hello Broadway, 30, 25.5
10 I Want Revenge, 54, 40.5
11 Midshipman, 19, out
12 Notonthesamepage , 40, out
13 Old Fashioned, 7, 7.25
14 Papa Clem, 44, 25.5
15 Patena, 22, 25.5
16 Pioneer of the Nile, 13, 16.15
17 Silver City, 35, out?
18 Stardom Bound, 22, 22.5
19 Taqarub, 46, out?
20 The Pamplemousse , 29, 14.15
21 This Ones For Phil, 44, out?
22 Vineyard Haven, 36 60.5,
23 West Side Bernie, 40, 35.5

Just 5 horses' odds are lower at TheGreek than in Pool 1. 11 horses' odds are higher. (I'm not sure about Old Fashioned--What was his WillPay?) 6 horses from Pool 1 are either off the Trail or nearly off.

Does any one have a list of the Pool 1 Will Pays? Both DRF and KentuckyDerby.com are now just showing the rounded odds.

--Dunbar

1 - Beethoven - $65.00
2 - Big Drama - $99.00
3 - Capt. Candyman Can - $53.80
4 - Chocolate Candy - $59.00
5 - Flying Pegasus - $58.80
6 - Friesan Fire - $39.40
7 - Giant Oak - $51.40
8 - Haynesfield - $66.80
9 - Hello Broadway - $62.80
10 - I Want Revenge - $111.80
11 - Midshipman - $41.00
12 - Notonthesamepage - $83.00
13 - Old Fashioned - $16.40
14 - Papa Clem - $90.20
15 - Patena - $46.40
16 - Pioneerof the Nile - $29.20
17 - Silver City - $72.80
18 - Stardom Bound - $46.60
19 - Taqarub - $94.40
20 - The Pamplemousse - $60.40
21 - This Ones for Phil - $90.80
22 - Vineyard Haven - $75.60
23 - West Side Bernie - $83.20
24 - Mutuel field (all other 3-year-olds) - $5.80


Here is Bodog's ( ODDS ARE BELOW HORSE'S NAME ):

All wagers have action.
AFFIRMATIF

75/1
ALMA d' ORO

75/1
BEAR'S ROCKET

75/1
BEETHOVEN

30/1
BELIEVE IN HOPE

75/1
BIG DRAMA

50/1
CAPT. CANDYMAN CAN

35/1
CHARITABLE MAN

40/1
CHOCOLATE CANDY

25/1
CRIBNOTE

50/1
DANGER TO SOCIETY

75/1
DESERT PARTY

20/1
DUNKIRK

15/1
FLAT OUT

85/1
FLYING PEGASUS

40/1
FRIESAN FIRE

15/1
GENERAL QUARTERS

75/1
GIANT OAK

30/1
GIROLAMO

50/1
GONE ASTRAY

75/1
HAYNESFIELD

40/1
HELLO BROADWAY

35/1
HIS GREATNESS

60/1
I WANT REVENGE

50/1
IMPERIAL COUNCIL

35/1
JOSE ADAN

75/1
MAJORMOTIONPICTURE

45/1
MR. FANTASY

50/1
MR MISTOFFELEES

75/1
MUNNINGS

75/1
NEW BAY

45/1
OLD FASHIONED

8/1
PAPA CLEM

60/1
PATENA

25/1
PERFECT SONG

60/1
PIONEEROF THE NILE

10/1
QUALITY ROAD

15/1
REGAL RANSOM

60/1
SILVER CITY

40/1
SQUARE EDDIE

30/1
STARDOM BOUND

15/1
TAKE THE POINTS

60/1
TERRAIN

75/1
THE PAMPLEMOUSSE

14/1
THEREGOESJOJO

30/1
THIS ONES FOR PHIL

75/1
TURK

75/1
UNO MAS

60/1
VINEYARD HAVEN

30/1
WARRIORS REWARD

50/1
WELL POSITIONED

75/1
WESTSIDE BERNIE

35/1
WISE KID

85/1
Field (Any Other Horse)

3/1

[Dunbar]

Thanks for the 'will pays', rob!

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

dunkirk , desert party , quality road nowhere to be found

In my post, I only included TheGreek's prices on the Pool 1 individual entry horses. Here are all the horses in TheGreek's list: ("+3550" means 35.5 to 1, etc)

2301 Beethoven +3550
2302 Believe In Hope
2303 Big Drama +8050
2304 Charitable Man +4050
2305 Captain Candyman Can +6550
2306 Chocolate Candy +3550
2307 Danger To Society +6050
2308 Dunkirk +1650
2309 Friesan Fire +2550
2310 Giant Oak +2550
2311 Haynesfield +4050
2312 Hello Broadway +2550
2313 Imperial Council +2550
2314 I Want Revenge +4050
2315 Mr Fantasy +4050
2316 Old Fashioned +725
2317 Patena +2550
2318 Pioneer Of The Nile +1615
2319 Papa Clem +5250
2320 Quality Road +1615
2321 Stardom Bound +2250
2322 The Pamplemousse +1415
2323 Theregoesjojo +3850
2324 Vineyard Haven +6050
2325 West Side Bernie +3550

--Dunbar