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Old 10-24-2008, 09:22 PM
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Default BC Sat. picks Free to all my buddies

race 1 6 zappa
race 2 10 cal flag
race 3 7 albertus max
race 4 1 shakis
race 5 8 azul leon
race 6 12 grand adventure
race 7 8 sing baby sing
race 8 2 red rocks
race 9 9 curlin
race 10 11 kool comic
race 11 6 madeo

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Old 10-24-2008, 09:26 PM
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Cue the Lynch Mob in 3,2,1......
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:21 PM
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I would'nt hold your breath on cashing any of those tickets unless on perhaps in the 9th race Good Luck none-the-less
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:27 PM
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I would'nt hold your breath on cashing any of those tickets unless on perhaps in the 9th race Good Luck none-the-less
you are probably right however I just need to hit a couple at a good price because I mostly bet wps and occasional exacta, good luck to you,
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:45 PM
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you are probably right however I just need to hit a couple at a good price because I mostly bet wps and occasional exacta, good luck to you,
I erased one ridiculous post from this thread already.

To the point, sdj has several interesting horses on his list that are live. I'll say here that $2 ATB on all his horses will return above the $66 it will cost. The horses below all have various appeal as board hit possibles and/or longshot winners..

If you don't swing with horses like some of these types, you will never have a big Breeders Cup.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:48 PM
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I erased one ridiculous post from this thread already.

To the point, sdj has several interesting horses on his list that are live. I'll say here that $2 ATB on all his horses will return above the $66 it will cost. The horses below all have various appeal as board hit possibles and/or longshot winners..

If you don't swing with horses like some of these types, you will never have a big Breeders Cup.

race 1 6 zappa
race 2 10 cal flag
race 3 7 albertus max
race 4 1 shakis
race 5 8 azul leon
race 6 12 grand adventure
race 7 8 sing baby sing
race 8 2 red rocks
race 9 9 curlin
race 10 11 kool comic
race 11 6 madeo

Did your nose grow while you wrote that?
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Did your nose grow while you wrote that?
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:54 PM
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My favorite swing of his is Curlin. Batting practice I assume....or just a " I need cab fare home " after betting the likes of California Flag, Shakis, Azul Leon, Sing Baby Sing ( snicker ) and Red Rocks?
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:59 PM
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My favorite swing of his is Curlin. Batting practice I assume....or just a " I need cab fare home " after betting the likes of California Flag, Shakis, Azul Leon, Sing Baby Sing ( snicker ) and Red Rocks?
Gee I thought for just a moment there you were singing curlins praise ................But only for a moment
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:01 PM
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Ya know, I'm really on the fence. Half of me wants Curlin to win because he's so clearly the best dirt horse in the race.....and the other half wants him to bomb to put a final stamp on how disgraceful it is to run this year's BC races on synthetic turf.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:09 PM
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and for me...i'm beginning to tire of the 'he'll be the best in the last 25 years' if he wins crap myself.
then i think about asmussens syn ability....maybe curlin will win in spite of everything. he's the top 'cap horse this year-but will that mean a thing tomorrow?
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:20 PM
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I usally don't bet real short price horses however, This is BC and hope curlin wins. I'll stick him top and bottom with a couple of bombs to try and hit decent exacta, and enjoy the race. I don't bet 11 races on any card except BC it's more of an fun day than trying to swing for the fence.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:35 PM
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I usally don't bet real short price horses however, This is BC and hope curlin wins. I'll stick him top and bottom with a couple of bombs to try and hit decent exacta, and enjoy the race. I don't bet 11 races on any card except BC it's more of an fun day than trying to swing for the fence.

Why, if you don't mind, do you like the horses you listed?
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:53 PM
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Why, if you don't mind, do you like the horses you listed?
that's the first fair and intelligent question i've received thx
well if you look you see I,ve pick horses who have run well at dmr hol osa, such as zappa cal flag, or at woodbime on syn trk. Now red rocks is a euro however he ran here and beat curlin on grass this summer. also horses who ran well at kee on syn trk. I don't spent time on Euros becuse no pace line for me to evaluate. Now I first eliminate horses on a few factors and if no pace line to compare what's left i throw them out. On any other day of year i would pass races with no pace lines, however this is BC and I will have fun and bet every race.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:55 PM
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:59 PM
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that's the first fair and intelligent question i've received thx
well if you look you see I,ve pick horses who have run well at dmr hol osa, such as zappa cal flag, or at woodbime on syn trk. Now red rocks is a euro however he ran here and beat curlin on grass this summer. also horses who ran well at kee on syn trk. I don't spent time on Euros becuse no pace line for me to evaluate. Now I first eliminate horses on a few factors and if no pace line to compare what's left i throw them out. On any other day of year i would pass races with no pace lines, however this is BC and I will have fun and bet every race.

There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:09 AM
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There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?
I agree in your analysis however i don't get to much into the trip and detail handicapping, because I
don't get to watch to many races and have the time. I,m an otr trk driver and stay out 2-3 weeks at a time then come home for 4 days. I do have a lap top with me at alltimes with wi-fi and try to keep up. So i'm lazy and load info into my horse program and take results and try to pick overlays. It's a hobby and labor of love but I do all right for a part timer
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:11 AM
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I agree in your analysis however i don't get to much into the trip and detail handicapping, because I
don't get to watch to many races and have the time. I,m an otr trk driver and stay out 2-3 weeks at a time then come home for 4 days. I do have a lap top with me at alltimes with wi-fi and try to keep up. So i'm lazy and load info into my horse program and take results and try to pick overlays. It's a hobby and labor of love but I do all right for a part timer
also I will say I eyeball the form first and eliminate horses before entering in program, so I really handicap somewhat.
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That's great. Thanks.

I do wonder, however, given what you just said, how you think it's OK to do the enormous amount of lecturing you have done on this site. I just assumed you were doing it from more of a position of strength.
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That's great. Thanks.

I do wonder, however, given what you just said, how you think it's OK to do the enormous amount of lecturing you have done on this site. I just assumed you were doing it from more of a position of strength.
That's fair question, I followed the horses for many years and then left it for 20 yrs. now as far as the amount of time you say I do I only have 237 posts in about 1 1/2 yrs. I do post some opinionated subjects that seem to get alot of replies, but end up having to defend myself on personal replies instead of questions like you are asking. Some people on the blog are more interestd in smartass remarks than an civil and heated discussions on horse racing. I'm 56 and will never let some smart jerk call me a name on line for no reason, then I gat mad and become a smart ass like them. well got to work on that
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