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Old 08-23-2008, 11:57 AM
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Some Travers questions for anyone who will indulge?

1. Do you know what time is post?

2. I am also looking for the race number of Desert Key because I plan to bet that race too. Also what time is that post and his odds?

3. I think there could be some money to be won on Tale of Akati today. I plan to bet him across the board. Anyone else agree (20-1 in a wide open field)?

4. I am also going to put a little down on Col John to Win.

5. My big struggle today is I like both Desert Key and Tale of Akati. I think they are both in post position 1. I'm not sure if that is a bad thing? After watching Big Brown in that post at The Belmont, I have some concerns. Any advice?

6. Do you think both Zito horses, DaTara and Cool Coal Man will sprint to the lead early?

7. I know the race is on ESPN. Do you know who the track announcer will be?

Thanks all.
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:58 AM
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http://www.drf.com/entries/23/eSAR23.html?rn=692970
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:00 PM
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Post is 5:45 EDT.


I wouldn't tout off of too many horses in that field.


Exotics should pay well, if one is so inclined.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:02 PM
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Got it...thanks

Desert Key at 4-1. Do you like him ateam?
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:02 PM
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post is 5:45 ET

Da'Tara will go to the lead, but Cool Coal Man is a dead closer. He'll be back in the back early. I actually like CCM in here today and I think he's the price horse instead of Tale of Ekati.

Desert Key's the #2 in the 10th (5:10 post)... post 1, but program #2

Col John's a good horse, but is a synthetic specialist.... don't care for him on dirt.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:03 PM
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Got it...thanks

Desert Key at 4-1. Do you like him ateam?
Not on top, but he's obviously dangerous. Just think he's better suited to six furlongs than seven.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:05 PM
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post is 5:45 ET

Da'Tara will go to the lead, but Cool Coal Man is a dead closer. He'll be back in the back early. I actually like CCM in here today and I think he's the price horse instead of Tale of Ekati.

Desert Key's the #2 in the 10th (5:10 post)... post 1, but program #2

Col John's a good horse, but is a synthetic specialist.... don't care for him on dirt.

I just double checked and it said Desert Key is in post #1?

If I remember the Derby correctly, I thought CCM broke early to the lead?
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:06 PM
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post is 5:45 ET

Da'Tara will go to the lead, but Cool Coal Man is a dead closer. He'll be back in the back early. I actually like CCM in here today and I think he's the price horse instead of Tale of Ekati.

Desert Key's the #2 in the 10th (5:10 post)... post 1, but program #2

Col John's a good horse, but is a synthetic specialist.... don't care for him on dirt.
Ummm
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:06 PM
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Quick Pick 4 wagering question. This one I know is simple to most everyday players, but I've just never been a Pick 4 or Pick 6 guy.

Today's late Pick 4 at Saratoga looks to be an exception.


If I have a single in the first race, two horses in the second leg, five horses in the third leg, and 7 horses in the final leg....


.....is that a $70 wager?
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:07 PM
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Quick Pick 4 wagering question. This one I know is simple to most everyday players, but I've just never been a Pick 4 or Pick 6 guy.

Today's late Pick 4 at Saratoga looks to be an exception.


If I have a single in the first race, two horses in the second leg, five horses in the third leg, and 7 horses in the final leg....


.....is that a $70 wager?

1x2x5x7=$70 you are correct
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:14 PM
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1x2x5x7=$70 you are correct

Thanks, jwkniska.

I usually can go research those questions, but that answer wasn't easily coming up in my google searches.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:22 PM
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Ummm
Any concerns that CCM just ran less than 3 weeks ago?
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:25 PM
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Any concerns that CCM just ran less than 3 weeks ago?
I was just responding to the painfully inaccurate statement that Cool Coal Man is a deep closer. . .
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:26 PM
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I was just responding to the painfully inaccurate statement that Cool Coal Man is a deep closer. . .
Do you know if the post #1 is considered a bad one. I like two horses positioned there today but not sure if that is wise?
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:28 PM
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The post won't really be a factor for Tale of Ekati. . . may be a bit of a detriment to Desert Key if he's one of the ones you like.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:33 PM
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The post won't really be a factor for Tale of Ekati. . . may be a bit of a detriment to Desert Key if he's one of the ones you like.
Cool thanks!
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:39 PM
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after watching a few races I really don't see the rail having any advantage. I was hoping that Tale of Ekati would have a post position advantage...

I thought he was very well placed in the Ky Derby and had no excuses (for place or show money) I think he should have finished better than 4th with that ride. Don't believe that Edgar is the answer because Coa was not a problem. I will be betting ToE, just not as heavy.

also hope Court Vision finishes ahead of Pyro. Don't like Pyro.

Does anyone like Golden Spikes or Visionaire in the King Bishop?
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:42 PM
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after watching a few races I really don't see the rail having any advantage. I was hoping that Tale of Ekati would have a post position advantage...

I thought he was very well placed in the Ky Derby and had no excuses (for place or show money) I think he should have finished better than 4th with that ride. Don't believe that Edgar is the answer because Coa was not a problem. I will be betting ToE, just not as heavy.

also hope Court Vision finishes ahead of Pyro. Don't like Pyro.

Does anyone like Golden Spikes or Visionaire in the King Bishop?
I kind of like Visionaire.

I don't know why. I think ToE has a huge race still left in him. While he's got some odds, I am going to grab it.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:46 PM
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after watching a few races I really don't see the rail having any advantage. I was hoping that Tale of Ekati would have a post position advantage...

I thought he was very well placed in the Ky Derby and had no excuses (for place or show money) I think he should have finished better than 4th with that ride. Don't believe that Edgar is the answer because Coa was not a problem. I will be betting ToE, just not as heavy.

also hope Court Vision finishes ahead of Pyro. Don't like Pyro.

Does anyone like Golden Spikes or Visionaire in the King Bishop?
I like Golden Spikes better than Viaionaire, but like the entry better.
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Old 08-23-2008, 01:04 PM
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I like Golden Spikes better than Viaionaire, but like the entry better.
yeah, it's a shame they are coupled
Kodiak Kowboy isn't uber exciting for me
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