Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Reload this Page PP'S of all these great ones...
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-18-2008, 12:19 AM
jcs11204 jcs11204 is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: niskayuna
Posts: 1,861
Default PP'S of all these great ones...
if anyone could please post the pp's for these horses it would be great... if not all of them, any of them would be fine.. it would be greatly appreciated.

point given
ghostzapper
artie schiller
azeri
repent
congaree
rosses in may
mineshaft
kittens joy
ten most wanted
silver bullet day
peace rules
GIANTS CAUSEWAY
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-18-2008, 01:05 AM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcs11204
if anyone could please post the pp's for these horses it would be great... if not all of them, any of them would be fine.. it would be greatly appreciated.

point given
ghostzapper
artie schiller
azeri
repent
congaree
rosses in may
mineshaft
kittens joy
ten most wanted
silver bullet day
peace rules
GIANTS CAUSEWAY
peace rules and ten most wanted are great??
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-18-2008, 05:25 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,701
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
peace rules and ten most wanted are great??
I thought Peace Rules was a terrific race horse... Not a 'great' in the true sense of the word, but really, really good.

I think you could call the top five from those 13 'great'.. The rest range from near-great to outstanding to very , very good.

1. Point Given
2, Ghostzapper
3. Silverbulletday
4. Congaree
5. Mineshaft
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-18-2008, 05:52 AM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
peace rules and ten most wanted are great??
I can't believe you said nothing about Repent!

He never did win a Grade 1 race...and his pair of Grade 2 wins were moderate figure wise.

As you remember, I bet him with great enthusiasim in the BC Juvenile at better than 40/1 only for him to run 2nd to the European Johannesburg.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-18-2008, 06:07 AM
Pedigree Ann's Avatar
Pedigree Ann Pedigree Ann is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 1,776
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcs11204
if anyone could please post the pp's for these horses it would be great... if not all of them, any of them would be fine.. it would be greatly appreciated.

mineshaft
GIANTS CAUSEWAY
For the GB/IRE races (and most of the US, they can be hit-and-miss on foreign stuff) of these two, go to www.racingpost.co.uk , register (costs nothing), use the 'Search' box at upper right to get the right horse, and you get PPs. And you can click on each race to get a GB-style chart (no running lines, but lots of comment.)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-18-2008, 06:08 AM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcs11204
if anyone could please post the pp's for these horses it would be great... if not all of them, any of them would be fine.. it would be greatly appreciated.

point given
ghostzapper
artie schiller
azeri
repent
congaree
rosses in may
mineshaft
kittens joy
ten most wanted
silver bullet day
peace rules
GIANTS CAUSEWAY
http://www.drf.com/row/pps/ghostzapper.pdf

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/artieschiller.pdf

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/azeri.pdf

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/congaree.pdf

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/rosesinmay.pdf

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/peacerules.pdf

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2002/pps/3c.pdf

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2003/pps/3c.pdf

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2003/pps/om.pdf

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2004/pps/3c.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-18-2008, 06:40 AM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
One horse who's form is pretty interesting is Birdstone.



Like War Pass he won the Champagne at age 2 after breaking his maiden first out at Saratoga.

Like War Pass he returned in a manufactored allowance race at Gulfstream Park and beat a weak field at 1/9 odds

Like War Pass he bombed next out as the heavy favorite. He finished 5th beaten double digit lengths in the Lanes End at Turfway Park - behind the likes of Sinister G., Tricky Taboo, and Little Math Man.

In his next three starts, he'd throw a shoe in the mud on Derby day, and swept the Belmont and Travers.

If people want to put a positive spin on the chances of War Pass rebounding, the form of Birdstone would be a pretty good place to start making their case from.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-18-2008, 07:19 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
One horse who's form is pretty interesting is Birdstone.



Like War Pass he won the Champagne at age 2 after breaking his maiden first out at Saratoga.

Like War Pass he returned in a manufactored allowance race at Gulfstream Park and beat a weak field at 1/9 odds

Like War Pass he bombed next out as the heavy favorite. He finished 5th beaten double digit lengths in the Lanes End at Turfway Park - behind the likes of Sinister G., Tricky Taboo, and Little Math Man.

In his next three starts, he'd throw a shoe in the mud on Derby day, and swept the Belmont and Travers.

If people want to put a positive spin on the chances of War Pass rebounding, the form of Birdstone would be a pretty good place to start making their case from.
and the same trainer.....
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-18-2008, 08:40 AM
Thunder Gulch's Avatar
Thunder Gulch Thunder Gulch is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Southland Greyhound Park
Posts: 1,846
Default
Birdstone really was unfortunate with track conditions in the Lanes End, where they sealed the track ten minutes before post, and the Derby in that slop behind Smarty. He wasn't the most durable horse as is clear by the spacing, but he ran well when given time to work up to big races. I don't think Birdstone was as fast as War Pass was last year, but he has a better pedigree for distance.
__________________
Do I think Charity can win? Well, I am walking around in yesterday's suit.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-18-2008, 09:07 AM
robfla robfla is offline
Calder Race Course
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Strategically between Calder and Gulfstream
Posts: 1,892
Default
buy this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Champions-Perf.../dp/0964849399
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-18-2008, 11:47 AM
jcs11204 jcs11204 is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: niskayuna
Posts: 1,861
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
peace rules and ten most wanted are great??

ten most wanted is great for me.... had him in the exacta in the belmont

pounded him to win in the travers, with straight exacta with peace rules
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-18-2008, 01:37 PM
miraja2's Avatar
miraja2 miraja2 is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,157
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcs11204
ten most wanted is great for me.... had him in the exacta in the belmont
I certainly wouldn't call him great, but I always liked TMW too. I like his Mr. Prospector-less pedigree, and he ran some pretty nice races in his career. Of course he had a good scenario in the Travers with Strong Hope and Peace Rules killing each other down the backstretch, but I thought that race and his performace in the Illinois Derby were very good.
It is too bad that the geldings (Funny Cide and Perfect Drift) combined to eliminate any chances he had in the BCC by almost knocking him over in the first turn. He probably wouldn't have beaten the winner that day anyway, but I think he certainly could have gotten a minor share.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-18-2008, 02:21 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I can't believe you said nothing about Repent!

He never did win a Grade 1 race...and his pair of Grade 2 wins were moderate figure wise.

As you remember, I bet him with great enthusiasim in the BC Juvenile at better than 40/1 only for him to run 2nd to the European Johannesburg.
i didn't mention him because i didn't want you to get your feelings hurt about that horse.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-18-2008, 02:22 PM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default
Looking at Ghostzappers PP's....what ever happen to Clockstopper?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-18-2008, 03:39 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
http://www.drf.com/row/pps/clockstopper.pdf

That's his form - as for what happened to him....no clue.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-18-2008, 04:06 PM
miraja2's Avatar
miraja2 miraja2 is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,157
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
http://www.drf.com/row/pps/clockstopper.pdf

That's his form - as for what happened to him....no clue.
Didn't he show up at the fairgrounds last year in some minor stakes race?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-18-2008, 04:20 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default
I think so now that you mention it.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-18-2008, 04:39 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default
He bowed a tendon, they gave him alot of time, brought him back but I believe he rebowed
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-18-2008, 07:46 PM
jcs11204 jcs11204 is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: niskayuna
Posts: 1,861
Default
i liked a lot of those horses more as my own favorites then all time greats
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:39 AM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.