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Old 01-18-2008, 03:52 PM
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Pretty good little read right here. Hopefully something can be done.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...TS04/801180430
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:32 PM
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getting hay right now in KY is a real problem and what is available isn't that great quality and costs a lot....the farm where my horses are boarded is charging and extra $50 per head per month to offset the increase in hay price....most people just can't afford it. I've seen some pretty poor looking animals in backyard farms.
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:27 AM
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getting hay right now in KY is a real problem and what is available isn't that great quality and costs a lot....the farm where my horses are boarded is charging and extra $50 per head per month to offset the increase in hay price....most people just can't afford it. I've seen some pretty poor looking animals in backyard farms.
I really don't get it..I guess folks priorities are messed up. I am pretty sure racehorses and owners as such don't give a dam how much hay costs a bale.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:16 AM
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some do freddy. not all owners are in it for love of horses, or have loads of money-not all owners are sheiks.

everything is going up, since so many switched to growing corn-and there is corn piled by the mile under tarps around here, as there wasn't enough storage space. overloaded with corn these days.


my neighbor got into selling hay, it's turned into quite a business. but much like anything else, you have to be careful who you buy from, as some hay isn't near the quality you want.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:04 AM
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Look I completely understand that the price has doubled but annual expense is 1000 more per animal. The costs even for pet can be double that figure. How a race horse owner can be involved with a horse that he or she is not feeding correctly is mind boggling. I can't imagine someone saying " dont buy hay and feed it to the horse because the price is 25 instead of 12"

Danzig maybe Pletchers hay is 27 a bale and that is why his stock wins so much? lol
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:06 AM
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I hope DT Stables is buying the premium 26/27 dollar hay for their stable.
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I hope DT Stables is buying the premium 26/27 dollar hay for their stable.
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BTW -the vast majority of these troubled horses are not thoroughbreds
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BTW -the vast majority of these troubled horses are not thoroughbreds
It sounds like people not feeding their pets which I do understand and realize happens when people get overextended. Race horses arent pets and some let you know that the minute you try to pet them.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:23 AM
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It sounds like people not feeding their pets which I do understand and realize happens when people get overextended. Race horses arent pets and some let you know that the minute you try to pet them.

Freddy.....I never thought of you as an animal petter. Shocking.


Are you sure you weren't trying something else besides petting when the animal "let you know" ?
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:44 AM
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Freddy.....I never thought of you as an animal petter. Shocking.


Are you sure you weren't trying something else besides petting when the animal "let you know" ?
2 dogs, 3 cats, 6 bird feeders, and typically about 50lbs(6 bucks) of deer corn with 10 deer in the back yard.. BTW 2 wives 3 kids and a partridge in a pear tree..I feed everything.lol
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2 dogs, 3 cats, 6 bird feeders, and typically about 50lbs(6 bucks) of deer corn with 10 deer in the back yard.. BTW 2 wives 3 kids and a partridge in a pear tree..I feed everything.lol
just thought of a recent quote from the radio

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I really don't get it..I guess folks priorities are messed up. I am pretty sure racehorses and owners as such don't give a dam how much hay costs a bale.

my horses are ex-racehorses....as in pets. and chuck is right, the ones that are suffering from the high cost of hay are not thoroughbreds. but make no mistake, horses are paying the price.
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Such a humanitarian. Do you ever feed the pets some of your vikes?
easy hossy....my doggy gets xanax
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The unintended consequences of our actions are mind boggling. Sacrificing hay for corn to feed cars, not horses. The world staggers along in the wake of human error.
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Look I completely understand that the price has doubled but annual expense is 1000 more per animal. The costs even for pet can be double that figure. How a race horse owner can be involved with a horse that he or she is not feeding correctly is mind boggling. I can't imagine someone saying " dont buy hay and feed it to the horse because the price is 25 instead of 12"

Danzig maybe Pletchers hay is 27 a bale and that is why his stock wins so much? lol
yeah, maybe


it's just that not every owner really cares. which makes me wonder why they're an owner to begin with. how often do you pick up a paper, or read online about horses who are neglected/starving and had to be rescued. there's no excuse for it, but sadly it happens. and fairly often it happens to horses who are owned by people who can afford to feed them, and just don't bother.
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The unintended consequences of our actions are mind boggling. Sacrificing hay for corn to feed cars, not horses. The world staggers along in the wake of human error.
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just read the other day the biodiesel emits far more greenhouse gases than fossil fuels.

and the price of gas won't go down, as oil companies won't invest their capital into new refineries and the like, since they are the 'bad guys' these days, and don't know what their own future holds. what a mess.
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2 dogs, 3 cats, 6 bird feeders, and typically about 50lbs(6 bucks) of deer corn with 10 deer in the back yard.. BTW 2 wives 3 kids and a partridge in a pear tree..I feed everything.lol

What about Utah? Is he on the food payroll ?
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Such a humanitarian. Do you ever feed the pets some of your vikes?

Thats was uncalled for.
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