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10-17-2007, 12:00 AM
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Fund4horses
I think this is a good organization and I used to post this when I frequented the DRF forum. I first learned about them from a booth they had at the BC at Lone Star Park.
www.fund4horses.org They fight horse slaughter. There are still 2 slaughterhouses operating in Texas & I think another one in Oklahoma, or somewhere like that. So take a look. Thanks nomad 
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10-17-2007, 07:14 AM
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the 2 slaughterhouses in texas have been closed for most of this year...and the one in Illinois has been temprarily shut since may (Cavel int. is still fighting to reopen)....
so for now anyway, no horses are being slaughtered inside the united states.... THE PROBLEM is that without federal regulations banning the export of horses for slaughter the same horses that would have been killed here are now forced to endure a MUCH longer trip to their death in Canada or Mexico...and meet their end in facilities which in some cases, are no where near as 'humane' as those set up in the US. While the efforts of these groups to end slaughter is extremely admirable and should be supported...for right now they have probably made a bad situation worse for a lot of animals.
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10-17-2007, 11:15 PM
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I agree that federal regulations are needed but I can't agree that outlawing slaughterhouses in this country is detrimental to the horses, The way these places operate is barbaric anywhere in the world, and while we can't create laws in other countries, we certainly can be influencial (sp?). Outlawing it here a good start.
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10-17-2007, 11:22 PM
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10-18-2007, 07:17 AM
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look, I'm against slaughter...but banning it here means almost nothing if we allow live animals to be exported for slaughter....and when you add several days onto the last road trip... Im sorry, but you are prolonging suffering.
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10-18-2007, 07:42 PM
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10-18-2007, 08:31 PM
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perhaps it would be more helpful and useful to fight the overbreeding of horses, which produces unsustainable numbers. that way, when the slaughter ends, it's due to lack of unwanted horses, rather than having to then come up with a way to deal with thousands of horses who need care.
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10-28-2007, 08:43 AM
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I hate to bring this up again but just came across this article and I think it really drives home the point I was trying to make....
Horse Export Numbers Bring Focus Back to Federal Slaughter Ban by: Erin Ryder, TheHorse.com News Editor October 08 2007, Article # 10559 A Sept. 30 article and photographs in the Houston Chronicle examining horse slaughter procedures in Mexico has shifted the attention of animal welfare groups back to a federal ban on exporting horses for the purpose of slaughter. The article came in the wake of the Sept. 21 closure of Cavel International of DeKalb, Ill., the last U.S. horse slaughter facility. According to the USDA Market News Oct. 4 report, 31,086 horses declared as animals intended for slaughter have been exported to Mexico so far this year. At this point last year the total was 6,391. In an Oct. 4 press released entitled "Cruel Deaths in Mexico a Result of Closing U.S. Horse Processing Plants," the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) reiterated its stance on horse slaughter and the ongoing efforts to cease it. "Efforts by groups calling for an end to horse slaughter, such as the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), have led to the closure of the three remaining processing plants in the United States," the statement read. "Now, as the AVMA has repeatedly warned, horses are being abandoned in the United States or transported to Mexico where, without U.S. federal oversight and veterinary supervision, they are slaughtered inhumanely." Mark Lutschaunig, VMD, director of the AVMA Governmental Relations Division, said that the AVMA does not support slaughter, but opposes bills banning slaughter because there are no provisions to take care of the more than 100,000 unwanted U.S. horses each year that are currently earmarked for slaughter "Ideally, we would have the infrastructure in this country to adequately feed and care for all horses," Lutschaunig said in the statement. "But the sad reality is that we have a number of horses that, for whatever reason, are unwanted. Transporting them under USDA supervision to USDA-regulated facilities where they are humanely euthanized is a much better option than neglect, starvation, or an inhumane death in Mexico." The HSUS also released a statement Oct. 4, entitled "Sen. Landrieu, Reps. Schakowsky and Whitfield Join HSUS to Renew Call for Passage of American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act," following a press conference at which video of the process used in Mexico was played. Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and Reps. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), and Ed Whitfield (R-Ky.), chief sponsors of the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act (S.311/H.R. 503), were on hand to speak about the legislation, which would ban the export of U.S. horses for slaughter elsewhere and would prohibit the resumption of the domestic horse slaughter industry. "The recent Seventh Circuit court ruling upholding Illinois' ban on horse slaughter is a very positive step," said Sen. Landrieu in the HSUS statement. "But it is not enough--we must ensure that horse slaughter is prohibited in every state in America. Now America's horses are being beaten and dragged across the border into Mexico and Canada so that they can be inhumanely slaughtered for food. I will continue to fight in Congress to end this brutal practice and ensure that American horses will no longer be savagely slaughtered for human consumption." AL_LS635 Las Cruces, NM Thu, Oct 25, 2007 USDA Market News US to Mexico Weekly Livestock Export Summary Current Previous Current Previous Week Week Y-T-D Y-T-D* Species 10/20/2007 10/13/2007 Horses Slaughter 1,575 1,561 35,003 7,259 Breeding Males 42 30 699 449 Breeding Females 37 40 959 577 Geldings 160 81 2,986 1,719 Burro/Mule/Pony 0 0 35 4 Total Horses 1,814 1,712 39,682 10,008
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10-28-2007, 08:53 AM
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and...the fate of the last 200 hundered horses in april that were at the cavel plant when it was shut down....they were sent to canada for slaughter.
Slaughter: Cavel Horses Likely Transported to Canada by: The Associated Press April 02 2007, Article # 9291 Two hundred horses are likely on their way to Canadian slaughterhouses now that a court ruling has indefinitely shut down the last three horse slaughterhouses in the United States, including one in DeKalb, Ill., a state official said. A federal appeals court's decision Wednesday to block the Agriculture Department from providing horse meat inspections for a fee effectively shut down operations at Cavel International Inc. in DeKalb. Horse enthusiasts had hoped that Cavel International would allow the horses that had been headed to its plant to go to area barns, but the company on Thursday returned six trailers of the animals to suppliers in Colorado, Tennessee, Iowa and South Dakota, said Colleen O'Keefe, the Illinois Department of Agriculture's Division manager of Food Safety and Animal Protection. "These are basically unwanted horses," O'Keefe said. "These are horses that have never hardly seen a person and are not Flicka or that type of thing." Congress stripped funding for horse meat inspections in 2005, but the USDA devised a plan to provide the inspections for a fee for slaughter plants. U.S. District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, ruling in a lawsuit filed by the Humane Society of the United States, found the USDA did not follow federal procedures for setting up the inspection fee program.
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10-28-2007, 08:54 AM
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i cannot imagine eating a horse. to ban slaughter would be noble, but this quote from above points to the reality of the situation:
"But the sad reality is that we have a number of horses that, for whatever reason, are unwanted. Transporting them under USDA supervision to USDA-regulated facilities where they are humanely euthanized is a much better option than neglect, starvation, or an inhumane death in Mexico." you can't ban a happening, without an alternative to what has been going on. it's pollyannic to assume that by banning slaughter, these horses would suddenly be able to live to a ripe old age, fed and houses by loving, caring human beings, in a grassy field surrounded by a white picket fence. the change has to come from breeders, both large and small. too many horses, not enough homes. not enough responsible homes at that.
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10-28-2007, 09:00 AM
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from an article in yesterday's houston chronicle.....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5250772.html In September, the San Antonio Express-News visited a municipal plant in Juarez, Mexico, where horses 90 percent of them from the United States were immobilized with knife hacks to the back, then hoisted upside down and their throats slit.
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10-18-2007, 12:31 PM
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Think of it this way... ....if they outlawed gambling in ...oh......say Canada.........but it frolicked in the US......... ...then if you were a Canadian gambler ...you would merely...................... ..............................??
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