Jesse Jackson - Potential Co-Representative for Jockey's Guild

Good or bad?

Personally, not sure either way at this point.

[blackthroatedwind]

I'm not a huge fan, and it seems to me his actions are often quite self-serving. Is this someone the jockey's want representing them? On the other hand, for THEIR best interests, he certainly has more political clout than they are likely to get elsewhere. Good for the jockeys and possibly bad for the bettors as the jockies somehow seem to believe they are entitled to even more of our money ( we already pay them ).

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not a huge fan, and it seems to me his actions are often quite self-serving. Is this someone the jockey's want representing them? On the other hand, for THEIR best interests, he certainly has more political clout than they are likely to get elsewhere. Good for the jockeys and possibly bad for the bettors as the jockies somehow seem to believe they are entitled to even more of our money ( we already pay them ).

I'm leaning toward the latter part of this.. For the jocks' best interest, this would be a good thing.

[timmgirvan]

Sorry Folks....Jesse has always proven to br for Jesse!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

he brings no real credibility to the table...hes never had a public office..and being from chi ive seen this act before a hundred times..id pass..

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

he brings no real credibility to the table...hes never had a public office..and being from chi ive seen this act before a hundred times..id pass..

Jesse is just Jesse, but I dont think he will make any improvements. Jesse will just bring up the fact that horse racing doesnt have many blacks in it. He will have a hard time playing the race card as well. Smart man, selfish man but he can get things done in the correct setting.

At first I thought that said Jess Jackson, the owner, who is great and trying to clean up the business, but Jesse Jackson, is a con artist. If you can't see that then you are blind. The guy shakes down companies every chance he gets. Somehow he is looking to make a buck out of this. He should stay out of racing.

Originally Posted by boldruler

At first I thought that said Jess Jackson, the owner, who is great and trying to clean up the business, but Jesse Jackson, is a con artist. If you can't see that then you are blind. The guy shakes down companies every chance he gets. Somehow he is looking to make a buck out of this. He should stay out of racing.

NASCAR gives Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Charity $250k a year to keep him quiet about not having diversity in NASCAR. They man is a sell out.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

NASCAR gives Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Charity $250k a year to keep him quiet about not having diversity in NASCAR. They man is a sell out.

There isn't a person out there that cares less about black people than Jesse Jackson. He exploits the difficulties blacks face in order to line his pockets. Any guy who calls himself Reverand and is worth millions is a crook. That goes for the Pat Robertson types too, before anyone goes throwing the racist card at me. Jesse Jackson is an atrocious human being and racing should stay as far away as possible.

Maybe I should start representing whites because the NBA is racist. LOL.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by boldruler

There isn't a person out there that cares less about black people than Jesse Jackson. He exploits the difficulties blacks face in order to line his pockets. Any guy who calls himself Reverand and is worth millions is a crook. That goes for the Pat Robertson types too, before anyone goes throwing the racist card at me. Jesse Jackson is an atrocious human being and racing should stay as far away as possible.

Maybe I should start representing whites because the NBA is racist. LOL.

As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by boldruler

At first I thought that said Jess Jackson, the owner, who is great and trying to clean up the business, but Jesse Jackson, is a con artist. If you can't see that then you are blind. The guy shakes down companies every chance he gets. Somehow he is looking to make a buck out of this. He should stay out of racing.

Jesse is FOR JESSE. Why in the world would you want him to be speaking on behalf of the jockeys???????????????????????????

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.

Let him stick to carrying on Dr. King's work and stay away from Racing.

Originally Posted by somerfrost

As someone who has actually met Jesse, I disagree strongly! Certainly he has made his share of mistakes, both in his personal life as well as publically, but the man has dedicated his life to a cause and while he has profited somewhat, that alone can't discredit him! Dr King trusted him...that has always been enough for me. Jesse will bring considerable clout and can get things done! Nobody is saying the owners aren't doing their part but the track owners (lets look closely at crooks like Magna for example) certainly must do more! It's easy to be critical of someone like Jesse...but he and Al Sharpton, for all their shortcomings, continue to be the social critics this culture needs.

People like him and Al Sharpton make a living off trusting people like you. Al Sharpton is worse the JJ, if that is possible. If you are looking to AS and JJ as your social critics you are really crazy. THEY ARE CON ARTISTS. I do love how they are both reverands too. Throw that word in front of anything and people buy that con. Has nothing to do with color either, Pat Roberston and Falwell are right in there with them. Nothing better than millionaire religious guys who con people out of money. My favorite though was Pat Robertson naming his racehorse Mr. Pat and then having to give it up because gambling is not for religious people. What con artists these guys are.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

common somer, how can you say that with a straight face..he is the krusty the clown of politics..hes for and about jesse..he has alighned him self with the black panthers ect..hes a rev. yet.hes got half the south side pregnant..he a total hypocrate and not the peoples champion you might think..he mugs for the camera at every chance no matter what the situation sends himself into places hes not wanted disrupting real negoitations...i thiink the whole thing smells of jesse the clown hey hey kids..

[blackthroatedwind]

Not to be too political.....but has Al Sharpton apologized for his involvement in the Tawana Brawley incident yet? You know, the one where he knowingly ruined an innocent man's life in an attempt to make a name for himself.

[2Hot4TV]

he is the krusty the clown of politics..hes for and about jesse..

LOL, my coffee came out my nose! That's funny.

Here are some quotes from Jesse when he spoke in Louisville yesterday. You can also check them out at bloodhorse.

"At the end of the day, you get some roses, but someone else gets the money," Jackson said, apparently in reference to the Kentucky Derby (gr. I). "You have to say, 'Pay me for the risk I take. Pay me for the excellent athlete I am.' "

Jackson also questioned the widely accepted status of jockeys as independent contractors. "It's a long word meaning semi-indentured servant," he said. "Contractors have contracts with benefits."

Following his meeting with Guild members, Jackson fielded questions from the media. He said his interest in jockeys is two-fold: He is intrigued by the history of black riders in the United States, and also because "in the evolution of the industry, jockeys were left behind. Of all the professional athletes who are artists that engage in high-risk activity, jockeys are the least protected."

"That's an old system," Jackson said of the independent contractor status. "These owners, (if they are involved in) other industries, their janitors aren't independent contractors. They know better. They'll do this as long as they can get away with it.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Not to be too political.....but has Al Sharpton apologized for his involvement in the Tawana Brawley incident yet? You know, the one where he knowingly ruined an innocent man's life in an attempt to make a name for himself.

Of course not, but he is busy using poor peoples money that he conned them out of to start up a sitcom career. No joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9...elated&search=

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not a huge fan, and it seems to me his actions are often quite self-serving. Is this someone the jockey's want representing them? On the other hand, for THEIR best interests, he certainly has more political clout than they are likely to get elsewhere. Good for the jockeys and possibly bad for the bettors as the jockies somehow seem to believe they are entitled to even more of our money ( we already pay them ).

The betting public has noting to do with the day rate or the purse % the jockey gets. The Jockey Guild needs to get support from all the celebs., that are a the Kentucky Derby to help with the cause. In the end the betting pool and purse pool will most likely have to pay for their medical and long term disablity.