Least effected by pole position

Bernardini · #1 05-02-2007, 04:49 PM

imo Great Hunter & Tiago !! though I'll be very surprise if either won. My reasoning is the lack of pace and I'll be shocked (to say the least) to see a barbaro like performace. so the million dollar bonus is safe...

TitanSooner · #2 05-02-2007, 05:17 PM

nothing wrong with Tiago's post position

Bernardini · #3 05-02-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

nothing wrong with Tiago's post position

not at all !!! i what meant he would have alright regardless the draw. Now can he win, imo, no. Although he'll be in many of my tri boxes. good luck!!

TitanSooner · #4 05-02-2007, 05:57 PM

good luck to you too. Great Hunter in the 20 hole.. no thanks.

AeWingnut · #5 05-02-2007, 06:04 PM

I thought Dominican chose after Great Hunter
I guess they figured it doesn't matter

but what if 3 horses scratched out of the Derby
I know
never happen
but if he was in 19 and there was a scratch

doesn't matter

doesn't matter

Hickory Hill Hoff · #6 05-02-2007, 06:20 PM

Circular "key"

jpops757 · #7 05-02-2007, 06:57 PM

The more I think about Curlin. With his innside Post he could compromise some of the early speed colts because he will get position and force them to outrun him to get inside and not get hung wide in the first turn. Is this why Assmusen picked inside og Z, to keep the others fron wipeing Curlin out?

hockey2315 · #8 05-02-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I thought Dominican chose after Great Hunter
I guess they figured it doesn't matter

but what if 3 horses scratched out of the Derby
I know
never happen
but if he was in 19 and there was a scratch

doesn't matter

doesn't matter

AE - I think the logic for taking 20 over 19 is atleast you have nobody on your outside to bump with. . .

Rudeboyelvis · #9 05-02-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757

The more I think about Curlin. With his innside Post he could compromise some of the early speed colts because he will get position and force them to outrun him to get inside and not get hung wide in the first turn. Is this why Assmusen picked inside og Z, to keep the others fron wipeing Curlin out?

he said something to the effect of" they've been working out together, so it may relax both of them to be next to each other"

Can't argue with that logic

Cajungator26 · #10 05-02-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

he said something to the effect of" they've been working out together, so it may relax both of them to be next to each other"

Can't argue with that logic

He better watch out... Zanjero will be blowing by him by the end! LOL

Hickory Hill Hoff · #11 05-02-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

good luck to you too. Great Hunter in the 20 hole.. no thanks.

Cool avatar!

I need a shirt like that...

Danzig · #12 05-02-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

good luck to you too. Great Hunter in the 20 hole.. no thanks.

can't help thinking the 20 doesn't have many wins (1?) due to the fact that most years, there is no 20 horse. makes sense for the inside posts to have the most, as they fill EVERY year.

Danzig · #13 05-02-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Circular "key"

i really wish they had spelt it that way, as i always think 'kway', and then have to correct myself...

Cajungator26 · #14 05-02-2007, 08:16 PM

BC Juvy post positions (for contenders running in the Derby):

1 Street Sense Calvin Borel Carl Nafzger (finished 1st)
2 Stormello Kent Desormeaux William Currin (finished 5th)
3 Scat Daddy John Velazquez Todd Pletcher (finished 4th)
7 Great Hunter Corey Nakatani Doug O'Neill (finished 3rd)
8 Teuflesberg Robby Albarado Jamie Sanders (finished 10th)
9 Circular Quay Garrett Gomez Todd Pletcher (finished 2nd)

Merlinsky · #15 05-02-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

BC Juvy post positions (for contenders running in the Derby):

1 Street Sense Calvin Borel Carl Nafzger (finished 1st)
2 Stormello Kent Desormeaux William Currin (finished 5th)
3 Scat Daddy John Velazquez Todd Pletcher (finished 4th)
7 Great Hunter Corey Nakatani Doug O'Neill (finished 3rd)
8 Teuflesberg Robby Albarado Jamie Sanders (finished 10th)
9 Circular Quay Garrett Gomez Todd Pletcher (finished 2nd)

What's the most Juvie runners that've made the field? I just think its impressive that the top 5 finishers are back. Given the obsession with precocity it'd be interesting to see where they all finish as a group. This might be the Juvie jinx-breaking year too.

Are they actually going to be able to calm Stormello down or is it a fool's errand? I just think it's one thing to trick him into going slowly during a work when he doesn't realize that's what he's doing, another to be in a chaotic rush to the first turn with 19 other horses and a wall o' sound as they head to the homestretch.

#16 05-02-2007, 09:55 PM

Circular Quay.

He will be coming from far back anyway and can run all day anyway. And I dont think there is going to be enough speed for him to make a run. So the only way I see him winning is if the field is very tight coming into stretch and he gets to the outside and blows by a bunch of packed horses at one time. Its his only hope.

jpops757 · #17 05-02-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Circular Quay.

He will be coming from far back anyway and can run all day anyway. And I dont think there is going to be enough speed for him to make a run. So the only way I see him winning is if the field is very tight coming into stretch and he gets to the outside and blows by a bunch of packed horses at one time. Its his only hope.

I agree and think you can put SS in the same catagory. They both need to pass several horses in a group bunched up. Passing a lomg strung ou field will be very tough for either one. If they get there trip it could be very exciting with about half of the field gutting it out for the wire.

jett129 · #18 05-02-2007, 11:00 PM

He said it would mean the least amount of time in the gate.

#19 05-02-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757

I agree and think you can put SS in the same catagory. They both need to pass several horses in a group bunched up. Passing a lomg strung ou field will be very tough for either one. If they get there trip it could be very exciting with about half of the field gutting it out for the wire.

You think?
I think SS can be closer to the pace. I think his problem will be in a pack. If he gets a nice path behind a smaller group of front runners I think he can pick them off one by one.

#20 05-02-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jett129

He said it would mean the least amount of time in the gate.

What? I thought the thread was about the horse that would be least affected by post position. So this thread is about Great Hunter not having to wait as long locked in waiting for others to load?