nobiz.....

POINTGIVEN1985 · #1 03-12-2007, 10:20 PM

'Nobiz' more focused with blinkers ... that is the title of the article on ntra.com, this guy could benifit so much from putting the blinkers on, i think he's going to improve so much for the wood, i think he romps in the wood and goes back to the top of the list for derby contenders. i dont think anyone will question the raw talent of this horse and i think this equipment change will get him focused and put him into it early and im thinking he's going to improve so much, i cant wait for the wood.

#2 03-12-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

'Nobiz' more focused with blinkers ... that is the title of the article on ntra.com, this guy could benifit so much from putting the blinkers on, i think he's going to improve so much for the wood, i think he romps in the wood and goes back to the top of the list for derby contenders. i dont think anyone will question the raw talent of this horse and i think this equipment change will get him focused and put him into it early and im thinking he's going to improve so much, i cant wait for the wood.

And if it doesn't, will your postings change ? And maybe get a new handle ?

POINTGIVEN1985 · #3 03-12-2007, 10:35 PM

nope they wont, i stick to my guns, he did not run nearly as bad as ppl are making it out to be in the foy, and now in the wood you could possibly get a price on him and i will be loving that

POINTGIVEN1985 · #4 03-12-2007, 11:05 PM

im my opinion i would consider 9-5 value on him, and you might be able to get that, pletcher is on fire he's pointing 1 maybe 2 horses 2 the wood, summer doldrums ran a huge number the race before the gotham and he's pointing to the wood.

#5 03-12-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

nope they wont, i stick to my guns, he did not run nearly as bad as ppl are making it out to be in the foy, and now in the wood you could possibly get a price on him and i will be loving that

this is getting pathetic.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #6 03-13-2007, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

nope they wont, i stick to my guns, he did not run nearly as bad as ppl are making it out to be in the foy, and now in the wood you could possibly get a price on him and i will be loving that

Every year, I try to find a horse in the Derby to bet against at a short price,
this year it is him...but the blinkers should help.

miraja2 · #7 03-13-2007, 07:08 AM

This thread has put me in the uncomfortable position of agreeing with POINTGIVEN1985. But unfortunately, there is no way around it. I believe Circular Quay is pointed to the Wood, and off of his last performance he will (justly) receive a lot of play, and if there was ever a horse that was SCREAMING for blinkers.....it is Nobiz like Showbiz. If both CQ and Nobiz actually do run in that race, Nobiz might actually be a decent bet with blinkers on.

MisterB · #8 03-13-2007, 07:27 AM

9/5 is not my cup of tea

JDank34 · #9 03-13-2007, 07:51 AM

Will the new set of blinkers come with a buzzer???? That horse needs a new engine as well as a set of blinkers...he is just too slow to win a major G1 or G2race.

MisterB · #10 03-13-2007, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JDank34

Will the new set of blinkers come with a buzzer???? That horse needs a new engine as well as a set of blinkers...he is just too slow to win a major G1 or G2race.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #11 03-13-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JDank34

Will the new set of blinkers come with a buzzer???? That horse needs a new engine as well as a set of blinkers...he is just too slow to win a major G1 or G2race.

to slow ? i dont agree with that

#12 03-13-2007, 10:40 AM

Two words for Nobiz: "Harlan's Holiday" Too slow to win the Derby.

Cajungator26 · #13 03-13-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FairPlay

Two words for Nobiz: "Harlan's Holiday" Too slow to win the Derby.

Speaking of Harlan's Holiday...

His first crop are two year olds this year. There's a filly I'm interested in seeing:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/beach+holiday

Antitrust32 · #14 03-13-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Speaking of Harlan's Holiday...

His first crop are two year olds this year. There's a filly I'm interested in seeing:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/beach+holiday

some of his 2yo's looked real nice in the ring at calder and fetched some very nice prices (I think one went for $850,000)

ArlJim78 · #15 03-13-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FairPlay

Two words for Nobiz: "Harlan's Holiday" Too slow to win the Derby.

And the list of faster route horses this year?

Cajungator26 · #16 03-13-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

some of his 2yo's looked real nice in the ring at calder and fetched some very nice prices (I think one went for $850,000)

How about this one? What a nice looking filly... wonder why I like her? Haha

Out of Silver Charm's full sister:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/sharp+street2

#17 03-13-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

And the list of faster route horses this year?

Flying First Class OP 19 Feb 6F 107
Summer Doldrums AQU 10 Feb 1 1/16M 106
Mr Tex SA 09 Mar 6F 105
Deadly Dealer GP 03 Mar 7 1/2F 104
Exhale SA 15 Jan 6 1/2F 104
Ravel SA 03 Feb 1 1/8M 104
King of the Roxy GP 03 Mar 7 1/2F 103
Adore the Gold GP 03 Feb 6 1/2F 102
Circular Quay FG 10 Mar 1 1/16M 102
Coco Belle (f) SA 01 Feb 6F 102
Liquidity SA 03 Feb 1 1/8M 102
Texas Voyager SA 13 Jan 5 1/2F 102
Curlin GP 03 Feb 7F 101
Great Hunter SA 03 Mar 1 1/16M 101
Forefathers GP 03 Feb 6 1/2F 100
Teuflesberg OP 19 Feb 1M 100
Dream Rush (f) GP 10 Feb 6 1/2F 99
Ketchikan FG 16 Feb 1M 99
Sam P. SA 03 Mar 1 1/16M 99
Spin Master GP 03 Feb 7F 99
Street Magician GP 10 Feb 6F 99
Bold Start GP 03 Mar 7 1/2F 98
Ketchikan FG 10 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Nobiz Like Shobiz GP 03 Feb 1M 98
Try to Fly SA 03 Mar 6F 98

Do you want the list of faster older horses, too? This is the Beyer leaderboard for all distances, but plenty of Triple Crown nominees are so-far faster than Nobiz's 98.

ddthetide · #18 03-13-2007, 11:15 AM

IF Nobiz is NOT fast enough, then neither are Scat Daddy and Stormello. Nobiz ran stride for stride with them.

SniperSB23 · #19 03-13-2007, 11:16 AM

Summer Doldrums AQU 10 Feb 1 1/16M 106
Ravel SA 03 Feb 1 1/8M 104
Circular Quay FG 10 Mar 1 1/16M 102
Liquidity SA 03 Feb 1 1/8M 102
Great Hunter SA 03 Mar 1 1/16M 101
Teuflesberg OP 19 Feb 1M 100
Ketchikan FG 16 Feb 1M 99
Sam P. SA 03 Mar 1 1/16M 99
Ketchikan FG 10 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Nobiz Like Shobiz GP 03 Feb 1M 98

A different picture when you just look at a mile or more. Interesting who the only horse on there twice is.

Cajungator26 · #20 03-13-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

IF Nobiz is NOT fast enough, then neither are Scat Daddy and Stormello. Nobiz ran stride for stride with them.

Oh no... don't open that can of worms. I seem to be one of the only ones on here who likes Scat Daddy. LOL