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Old 03-02-2010, 08:53 AM
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
not unless bernie m got ahold of him..

steve why would he not..change it ....in hopes of future bc,s
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:01 AM
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They should just have the meet at Del Mar in the winter until Frank gets his act together and his medication kicks in.
That makes to much sense to have it happen.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:26 AM
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not unless bernie m got ahold of him..

steve why would he not..change it ....in hopes of future bc,s
they dont need to change it for the BC... obviously. look where they ran it the past two years.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:49 AM
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Seriously? The fans shouldn't be punished for something they had no control over
yea, seriously.....we all need to give to fix these problems.....its really not about who created what.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:53 AM
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as for the track surface being changed, it appears stronach is trying to use the surface as a bargaining tool. perhaps it'll end up being changed after all. but i'm not holding my breath.
This was exactly my thought when I read the article.

He's pretending indifference when he really does want to do the surface change, in hopes some sort of 'compromise' will be worked out on some other issue.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:01 AM
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This was exactly my thought when I read the article.

He's pretending indifference when he really does want to do the surface change, in hopes some sort of 'compromise' will be worked out on some other issue.

right. he said unless the business climate changes, he's not interested. i can see his point-the chrb made a boneheaded decision, which he had to pay for. now, he'll have to pay for it again.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:09 AM
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
Rich people never "need" more money.

That fact fact rarely deters them from seeking it, however.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:15 AM
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
Is Frank a Canuck if so there Social Security scale pales in comparsion to the States. I figure frank would be entitled to max benefit of like 1900 a month if he was a US citizen. Poor guy
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:17 AM
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right. he said unless the business climate changes, he's not interested. i can see his point-the chrb made a boneheaded decision, which he had to pay for. now, he'll have to pay for it again.
Also in his defense, he actually had to pay for it twice.

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:18 AM
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they dont need to change it for the BC... obviously. look where they ran it the past two years.
The BC is not ever going back to SA without changes--you think they are going let their event risk a rainout, all for a surface which has proven a disaster for attracting top domestic talent?

The last two years were a horrible fluke which just about everybody regrets.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:19 AM
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Also in his defense, he actually had to pay for it twice.

Cushion, then Pro Ride.
But that second change is all on him.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:25 AM
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The BC is not ever going back to SA without changes--you think they are going let their event risk a rainout, all for a surface which has proven a disaster for attracting top domestic talent?

The last two years were a horrible fluke which just about everybody regrets.
never say never with NTRA they havent proven to be anything but suspect
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:31 AM
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Also in his defense, he actually had to pay for it twice.

Cushion, then Pro Ride.
true. and i wonder how the bankruptcy judge would look upon him spending millions to buy dirt? we may want it, but how do-able is it at this point? and what's to keep chrb from making future mandates that cost an owner millions-twice? if i were frank, SA wouldn't be on the keep list.
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:25 AM
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Why should he foot the bill again. Why doesn't Shapiro get off some of that kickback he recieved for the mandate and pay for the track. I hope he never puts in a new track, let that **** dissolve
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California needs to start worrying about trainers completely jumping ship. O'Neil now has about 20 horses at Philly Park and Kristin Mulhall is the newest trainer to head east, to Penn National!
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:06 PM
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:08 PM
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California needs to start worrying about trainers completely jumping ship. O'Neil now has about 20 horses at Philly Park and Kristin Mulhall is the newest trainer to head east, to Penn National!
I'm sure the vacuum will be filled. It's an opportunity for someone else.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:37 PM
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California needs to start worrying about trainers completely jumping ship. O'Neil now has about 20 horses at Philly Park and Kristin Mulhall is the newest trainer to head east, to Penn National!
She is in for a bit of culture shock
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Old 03-02-2010, 01:00 PM
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The cost to keep the horses out there is ridiculous. The track is junk, the racing is mediocre. Who wouldn't want to head east?
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