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Old 03-31-2010, 04:54 PM
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Default 4/2-3 (OP): Fantasy S. & Oaklawn H. (G2's)

10th (5:47) Fantasy S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 All Due Respect Gomez G K 117 L
2 No Such Word Thompson T J 121 L
3 Tidal Pool Borel C H 117 L
4 Blind Luck Bejarano R 121 L
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:57 PM
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:41 AM
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wow... I continue to be amazed that they can't get more horses for this race. If I remember correctly, the year Eight Belles won the Fantasy it was a solid 3 horse field and I think Rachel only beat 3 or 4 horses last year.
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You think there would be more owners that would want to back themselves into a G2 placing.

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Old 04-01-2010, 09:28 AM
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$2,000 to pass the entry box and $2,000 to start = $4,000.

$180,000 1st
$60,000 2nd
$30,000 3rd
$15,000 4th
$9,000 5th
$6,000 each thereafter

Now arguably, why should anyone with a nice forward-moving allowance filly go up against the four that line up here? What's the upseide? A lot would need to happen 'right' for you to get third ("black type"), and you may well have missed a softer spot, even a stake, elsewhere.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:31 AM
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$2,000 to pass the entry box and $2,000 to start = $4,000.

$180,000 1st
$60,000 2nd
$30,000 3rd
$15,000 4th
$9,000 5th
$6,000 each thereafter

Now arguably, why should anyone with a nice forward-moving allowance filly go up against the four that line up here? What's the upseide? A lot would need to happen 'right' for you to get third ("black type"), and you may well have missed a softer spot, even a stake, elsewhere.
Too many stakes?
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:41 AM
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Now arguably, why should anyone with a nice forward-moving allowance filly go up against the four that line up here? What's the upseide? A lot would need to happen 'right' for you to get third ("black type"), and you may well have missed a softer spot, even a stake, elsewhere.
and that is the type of attitude that makes racing boring right now. I'm not saying I blame the owners, cause I understand WHY they would want to find a softer spot.. but it really hurts the sport.
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Too many stakes?
Absolutely...
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they only got 8 for the Ashland, so between the two most logical Oaks preps (at least in the Midwest) we've got a total of 12 horses. that's kinda scary in and of itself...
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You know, I'll add another factor, and it contributes to the deleterious synthetic surface 'effect'. Why run your 'slight cut below' horse in a spot on dirt, where she may be simply too slow to compete, when you can now look ahead for a spot at Keeneland or Arlington where your horse's lack of quickness is mitigated by a surface that lends itself to their more modest ability?
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You know, I'll add another factor, and it contributes to the deleterious synthetic surface 'effect'. Why run your 'slight cut below' horse in a spot on dirt, where she may be simply too slow to compete, when you can now look ahead for a spot at Keeneland or Arlington where your horse's lack of quickness is mitigated by a surface that lends itself to their more modest ability?
Good point, sir.
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You know, I'll add another factor, and it contributes to the deleterious synthetic surface 'effect'. Why run your 'slight cut below' horse in a spot on dirt, where she may be simply too slow to compete, when you can now look ahead for a spot at Keeneland or Arlington where your horse's lack of quickness is mitigated by a surface that lends itself to their more modest ability?
Now they can wait for Dubai as well
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they only got 8 for the Ashland, so between the two most logical Oaks preps (at least in the Midwest) we've got a total of 12 horses. that's kinda scary in and of itself...
I'd say the FG Oaks, which had 11 starters, is a pretty logical KY Oaks prep, considering that four of its last five winners went on to win the KY Oaks.
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SATURDAY 10th (5:31) Oaklawn H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Duke of Mischief Coa E M 115 L
2 Delightful Kiss Gryder A T 115 L
3 Win Willy Berry M C 117 L
4 Jonesboro Court J K 114 L
5 Follow the Leader Quinonez L S 114 L
6 Prom Shoes Thompson T J 112 L
7 Dakota Phone Garcia M 116 L
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Now that is fantastic.
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SATURDAY 10th (5:31) Oaklawn H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Duke of Mischief Coa E M 115 L
2 Delightful Kiss Gryder A T 115 L
3 Win Willy Berry M C 117 L
4 Jonesboro Court J K 114 L
5 Follow the Leader Quinonez L S 114 L
6 Prom Shoes Thompson T J 112 L
7 Dakota Phone Garcia M 116 L
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG This is easily the worst group I can remember.
Where is Misremembered? I thought he was running here?
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Is it easily one of the worst grade 2's you have ever seen too?

Its not? Whats your opinion of it?
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Its not? Whats your opinion of it?
Sorry. I misread your post as saying one of the worst group 1 you had ever seen.

You, of course, replied in the 3.5 seconds it took me to delete it.

But yeah man, that field is friggin awful.
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Sorry. I misread your post as saying one of the worst group 1 you had ever seen.

You, of course, replied in the 3.5 seconds it took me to delete it.

But yeah man, that field is friggin awful.
I said groups I can remember, not group 1. This would be a shitty allowance race.
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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG This is easily the worst group I can remember.
Where is Misremembered? I thought he was running here?
Santa Anita Handicap winner Misremembered will skip the Grade 2 Oaklawn Handicap on April 3.

"He hasn't really snapped back like he was before" the Big Cap, Baffert said. "I'm waiting for him to show crispy-ness."

Baffert said Misremembered will target a race after "we get him right."
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