The real party of NO, the GOP, steps it up

[Riot]

The current GOP has no shame whatsoever. Why were you elected? Work on jobs? The economy? Pretend you believe in bipartisanship?

Nope - the GOP is just gonna do what Mitch McConnell promised, and what the GOP has been doing for the past two years: nothing at all

GOP, thanks for screwing the voters who elected you to fix joblessness and the economy. Thanks for putting partisan politics first, before your country.

GOP, thanks for making it crystal clear that you and the newly elected Tea Party senators are nothing more than political hacks pretending to be patriots that care about this country.

This is from Faux News (so Chuck and Dell can't discount it out of hand as being "from the evil liberal media" although it's a nationally released AP story )

WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans intend to block action on virtually all Democratic-backed legislation unrelated to tax cuts and government spending in the current postelection session of Congress, officials said Tuesday, adding that the leadership has quietly collected signatures on a letter pledging to carry out the strategy.

Officials who disclosed the new Republican maneuver did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss it.

It was not known how many of the Senate's 42 Republicans had signed the draft letter, which the leadership intends to make public quickly.

The letter comes after comments by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell and others in his party that the voters made it clear in the elections they want lawmakers to focus on economic issues.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...#ixzz16qUoHkcj

Cry harder.

[Riot]

Yeah sure: GOP, meet the political wilderness you will spend the next election cycles within, surrounded by the unruly mobs of rural conservative red state members who have just lost their unemployment benefits and haven't a job on the horizon.

[Danzig]

oh, quit with the one sided, biased attacks, riot.


WASHINGTON — The chairmen of President Obama’s debt-reduction commission have been unable to win support from any of the panel’s elected officials for their proposed spending cuts and tax increases, underscoring the reluctance of both parties to risk short-term political backlash in pursuit of the nation’s long-term fiscal health.


the morass we are in is from decades of stuff like what i highlighted above. neither party is willing to do what is necessary, fearing losing re-election or power far more than wanting to do what we elected them to do to begin with.


this bi partisan commission was supposed to come up with ways to fix the mess-but what elected officials are going to jump on board???

[dellinger63]

Hey the Party is over. Time to turn on the lights and start cleaning up. And NO there will be no more cake or drink given out.

As I was told 2 years ago, DEAL WITH IT!

[Cannon Shell]

I guess Riot never heard of lame duck sessions. Yeah the American people want the guys just voted out to make some more decisions before they are escorted from the building

I just find it amusing that she makes it out like politics is only a factor on one side of the aisle. I find it a little disturbing that she thinks politically she is in the center.

Hey she's charitable. Don't believe me? Just ask the smug b.itch.

[Nascar1966]

Its not like the Democrats haven't played dirty pool for the past two years when they had the numbers. Payback is a bitch and every dog has its day. Enjoy the next two years of payback Democratic puppets.

[Riot]

I'll happily keep pointing out the unprecedented ridiculousness of the current GOP incarnation as long as their minority side is acting outrageously irresponsible compared to the other.

Have the Dems forced a record nearly 200 filibusters in 2 years? Cloture votes on everything? Blocked routine funding bills for weeks just because they didn't like the President? Naw.

Has the GOP? Absolutely.

Nascar, you say the Dems have done the same during the past two years. No, they haven't. And they didn't in the past with Bush, nor with Clinton. Either did the GOP.

No other minority Senate has been as obstructive. Voting records of the Senate are public and on the internet. Feel free to post it if you have it.

The minority GOP has obstructed and forced the Dems to get 60 in a cloture vote on every vote that the Constitution says needs 51.

And now the GOP is so brazen they are putting it in writing, that they are publicly throwing a temper tantrum, blocking everything - DADT, START, funding, etc - until they get tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. They are willing to throw 98% of Americans under the bus. They are blowing it, just like Gingrich did.

Dell, you say payback is a bitch? Yes, it will be. The GOP only won seats in the House. They are still the minority party in the Senate after Jan. 1. Reid is still in charge.

The minority GOP is going to lose their filibuster capability the first moments the new Senate opens, when the Dems change the Senate rules on them.

[Riot]

oh, quit with the one sided, biased attacks, riot.

This forum has been heavy on the anti-Obama Muslim-Communist-Socialist-Birther hate for nearly three years. Once he was elected it was constant. Turn about's fair play.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I guess Riot never heard of lame duck sessions. Yeah the American people want the guys just voted out to make some more decisions before they are escorted from the building

And you don't realize that the people didn't vote out the Democrats? That after January 1, the Senate is still a Democratically-controlled majority, with Reid in charge? And Dem President who holds veto power?

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

I find it disturbing you think you are a rather typical Republican. And are unawares of the election results.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

The current GOP has no shame whatsoever. Why were you elected? Work on jobs? The economy? Pretend you believe in bipartisanship?

Nope - the GOP is just gonna do what Mitch McConnell promised, and what the GOP has been doing for the past two years: nothing at all

Told you they aren't big on negotiating. They like power plays, and Obama isn't man enough to take the heat ( and let them ruin the country.) If they're willing, he should let them ruin the country. Call their bluff. You'll see that he will give in. That's why they have these power plays (he never calls their bluff.) The only way he gets elected again is if he's willing to let them do damage. He needs to let that tax cut extension run out. I don't care if nothing passes. That needs to run out. Then, have a vote on extending the tax cut for those under 250k. Get them on record voting against that. See, he needs to take responsibility for keeping the wealthy from getting their extended tax break, and he needs to make it clear who is voting against the middle class keeping their tax break. Show the country exactly who's responsible for what. Otherwise, they'll just blame him for everything. Make it crystal clear who is for what. He gives in so much that many voters don't know there's a difference.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

After the 2008 election, the power of the Democrats was overstated. After the 2010 election, the loss of power is overstated. With the filibuster crap, it makes it easy to narrow one of the 3 sections of pipe. Nothing can become law without all 3 sections of the pipe flowing.

[Riot]

Told you they aren't big on negotiating. They like power plays, and Obama isn't man enough to take the heat ( and let them ruin the country.)

Obama has been bending over for the GOP in the name of "bipartisanship". He keeps getting up the ***, but still hasn't learned his lesson. Yesterday they have "the meeting", and less than 12 hours later the letter? They are laughing at him.

If they're willing, he should let them ruin the country. Call their bluff. You'll see that he will give in. That's why they have these power plays (he never calls their bluff.) The only way he gets elected again is if he's willing to let them do damage. He needs to let that tax cut extension run out. I don't care if nothing passes. That needs to run out. Then, have a vote on extending the tax cut for those under 250k. Get them on record voting against that.

That is happening tomorrow. All the Bush tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 will be allowed to expire as scheduled, and tax levels revert back to what they were under Clinton (remember little national debt and solid economy?)

Tomorrow is the vote (Reid is much stronger than Obama now). The vote is on extending the tax cut (creating a new one) for the middle class. 98% of people will not see a change in their taxes. The top 2% of income earners will get a tax cut up to $250K, but not an extra cut for amounts over that.

The GOP is being welcomed by the Senate to vote it down.
** Edit just read that Reid won't do his tomorrow, it will just be Pelosi in the House.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you don't realize that the people didn't vote out the Democrats? That after January 1, the Senate is still a Democratically-controlled majority, with Reid in charge? And Dem President who holds veto power?

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

I find it disturbing you think you are a rather typical Republican. And are unawares of the election results.

I never said I was a typical Republician. As a matter of fact I never said that I was a Republican either. I have some social views that would be decidedly not typically Republican.

As for your assertion that the GOP "only" won the Senate, there seems to be an awful lot of handwringing from the left over that "small" victory. Didn't the GOP pick up some seats in the Senate as well? Yeah the President has a 44% approval rate, the Democrats just lost the House and lost seats in the Senate. That sounds like they did great!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

This forum has been heavy on the anti-Obama Muslim-Communist-Socialist-Birther hate for nearly three years. Once he was elected it was constant. Turn about's fair play.

Are Communists or Socialists in need of defense?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Told you they aren't big on negotiating. They like power plays, and Obama isn't man enough to take the heat ( and let them ruin the country.) If they're willing, he should let them ruin the country. Call their bluff. You'll see that he will give in. That's why they have these power plays (he never calls their bluff.) The only way he gets elected again is if he's willing to let them do damage. He needs to let that tax cut extension run out. I don't care if nothing passes. That needs to run out. Then, have a vote on extending the tax cut for those under 250k. Get them on record voting against that. See, he needs to take responsibility for keeping the wealthy from getting their extended tax break, and he needs to make it clear who is voting against the middle class keeping their tax break. Show the country exactly who's responsible for what. Otherwise, they'll just blame him for everything. Make it crystal clear who is for what. He gives in so much that many voters don't know there's a difference.

Yes because raising taxes on rich people solves everything...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As for your assertion that the GOP "only" won the Senate there seems to be an awful lot of handwringing from the left over that "small" victory. Didn't the GOP pick up some seats in the Senate as well? Yeah the President has a 44% approval rate, the Democrats just lost the House and lost seats in the Senate. That sounds like they did great!

You typo'd, I said House, not Senate.

Of course the Dems want to keep seats, just like the GOP wants to win them. The norm after a big presidential is to switch over the legislative branch.

So it's rather notable, that in spite of the past two years of fear mongering: death panel, horrible Communist, Muslim, Socialist, Hitler, ruining our country, take our country back, creation of the Tea Party by the Koch brothers, health care will destroy us meme, resulting in the most endangered Senate Majority leader in ages (Reid) - and the GOP couldn't beat Reid. Or win Delaware. Lost the Alaska seat to a write in.

First time in modern history the "switch" party took only the House back, but couldn't take the Senate.

The lowest amount of House seats won out of the past three "switch" elections.

The President's approval rating may be 44%, but that's higher than Clinton, Bush Two and Reagan at this point in their presidencies. And higher than the Dem party in general, and much higher than the GOP general approval rating.

Yeah, considering what could have been, the Dems lucked out.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yes because raising taxes on rich people solves everything...

Allowing some taxes on the income of those couples greater than $250K - which will affect only 2% of the population, and they get a tax break for income less than $250K - to go back to the normal Clinton-era levels, and additionally will cut $700 billion out of our deficit over the next 10 years - yeah, solves alot!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

You typo'd, I said House, not Senate.

Of course the Dems want to keep seats, just like the GOP wants to win them. The norm after a big presidential is to switch over the legislative branch.

So it's rather notable, that in spite of the past two years of fear mongering: death panel, horrible Communist, Muslim, Socialist, Hitler, ruining our country, take our country back, creation of the Tea Party by the Koch brothers, health care will destroy us meme, resulting in the most endangered Senate Majority leader in ages (Reid) - and the GOP couldn't beat Reid. Or win Delaware. Lost the Alaska seat to a write in.

First time in modern history the "switch" party took only the House back, but couldn't take the Senate.

The lowest amount of House seats won out of the past three "switch" elections.

The President's approval rating may be 44%, but that's higher than Clinton, Bush Two and Reagan at this point in their presidencies. And higher than the Dem party in general, and much higher than the GOP general approval rating.

Yeah, considering what could have been, the Dems lucked out.

The election that took place two years into Bush's presidency (2002).. The republicans gained 8 seats.

In 2004, the Republicans gained 3 net seats (gained 8, lost 5)

in 2006, the dems gained 31 seats.

in 2008, the dems gained 21 seats

in 2010, the republicans gained 63 seats


to go farther back..

in 2000.. the dems gained 2 seats in the house

1998 - dems gained 5 seats

1996 - dems gained 9 seats

1994 - republicans gained 54 seats

in fact, the 63 seats taken by the GOP in 2010 was the largest gain in any house election since by a single party since 1948, when the dems picked up 75 seats.

They also gained more seats in one election than the Dems gained in the 2006 & 2008 elections combined... when Republican hating was at it's peak.

Therefore, and I'm not being mean to you anymore.. its my post historic election landslide victory promise... but you are so very very wrong about this not being a historic election for the GOP.



Also, they gained 6 out of 37 seats up for grabs in the Senate... a 16% gain.

of the 37 seats:

Republicans won 24

Dems won 13


Repubs would have most likely took Reid's seat and the Deleware one, if they had offered even semi-sane candidates.. but of course you know this, since you started about 74 threads about it prior to the election. But hey... blame goes on the GOP for those two seats.

if all 100 seats were up for grabs (which I of course know is never the case) Repubs easily have control of the senate and possibly a super majority.


so there it is, in plain english, comprised of nothing but facts (except the bottom two paragraphs, which are my opinion)... the historic skull fucl<ing the Dems took on Nov 2, 2010.