The House is about to socialize your medicine, and your life.

[joeydb]

Next week all the closet communists will be pushing the house to pass their latest debacle of a "health care" bill.

Here's a link where one congresswoman in the opposition talks about what's about to happen to all of us should it pass:

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/03/...n-health-care/

If you want the pro-socialist position, turn on any TV station except Fox News. The most bold socialists can be found on MSNBC...Chris Matthews and Keith Ogreman easily will shovel all the pro Big Brother commentary you can stand.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Notice this bitch doesn't mention pre-existing conditions, or coverage for catastrophic. Why do you think about half of all bankruptcies are caused by Medical Bills? Most thought they had good medical coverage. This no-nothing bitch wants to keep allowing the insurance companies to just keep doing that. How many times does she have to be caught telling lies before people realize she is a pathological liar? Most have gotten away from that "Government will take control of the life n' death decisions" bullshit, but not this dense individual. She says Dems are gunna be surprised when her White Trash followers come to Washington? That's another lie. Nobody can be surprised when they do that.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Notice this bitch doesn't mention pre-existing conditions, or coverage for catastrophic. Why do you think about half of all bankruptcies are caused by Medical Bills? Most thought they had good medical coverage. This no-nothing bitch wants to keep allowing the insurance companies to just keep doing that. How many times does she have to be caught telling lies before people realize she is a pathological liar? Most have gotten away from that "Government will take control of the life n' death decisions" bullshit, but not this dense individual. She says Dems are gunna be surprised when her White Trash followers come to Washington? That's another lie. Nobody can be surprised when they do that.

How Pelosi is in her position is an insult to anyone who has ever died for this great country. She's the absolute worst.

This whole health bill is so bogus and full of crap all it will do is harm our country and not actually help the citizens. More in debt for the same old crap.

Dems have no balls to really reform health care the right way. Too greedy to do torm reform. and if this crap goes through with nothing on pre-existing conditions everyone in the government should be fired. Spend 1.2 trillion to do nothing. I absolutely despise congress and Pelosi is lower than scum.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Notice this bitch doesn't mention pre-existing conditions, or coverage for catastrophic. Why do you think about half of all bankruptcies are caused by Medical Bills? Most thought they had good medical coverage. This no-nothing bitch wants to keep allowing the insurance companies to just keep doing that. How many times does she have to be caught telling lies before people realize she is a pathological liar? Most have gotten away from that "Government will take control of the life n' death decisions" bullshit, but not this dense individual. She says Dems are gunna be surprised when her White Trash followers come to Washington? That's another lie. Nobody can be surprised when they do that.

Ms. Bachmann isn't well-known for dealing with reality-based issues. She keeps snapping in the air at her secret imaginary scary thoughts. Do her constituents even listen to what she has to say any more?

[Nascar1966]

Im sure all the people who can work that are unemployed and illegals are kissing O'Dumbass and the Bitch of the House Pelosi's ass. I dont know about you but every chance I get im voting Republican when it comes to Senate and Representatives being up for election in the future. Hopefully the governor races in Virginia and New Jersey are a sign of what is going to happen down the road for the worthless and clueless Democratic party. Alot of people are saying that no one could do a worse job than Bush did when he was in office. I think O'Dumbass is making people wish they voted for McCain instead. O'Dumbass didnt get my vote in 08 and sure the hell isnt in 12. If this ridiculous health insurance bill makes it all the way through its a shame that unemployed people who are milking the system and illegals are going to get health insurance. But I guess this is the O'Dumbass way of life. Wonder what O'Dumbass is going to do next? Maybe invite Bin Laden and the rest of his posse over to the White House for Thanksgiving dinner and of course drink some beer with O'Dumbass.

[steve]

being sent a bill for 5 hours in the ER for $9,881.40 is a little too much,don't you think?

[ddthetide]

about 50% of this board voted for that piece of crap in the white house and all his cronies in congress just because "we needed change". you got change alright.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure all the people who can work that are unemployed and illegals are kissing O'Dumbass and the Bitch of the House Pelosi's ass. I dont know about you but every chance I get im voting Republican when it comes to Senate and Representatives being up for election in the future. Hopefully the governor races in Virginia and New Jersey are a sign of what is going to happen down the road for the worthless and clueless Democratic party. Alot of people are saying that no one could do a worse job than Bush did when he was in office. I think O'Dumbass is making people wish they voted for McCain instead. O'Dumbass didnt get my vote in 08 and sure the hell isnt in 12. If this ridiculous health insurance bill makes it all the way through its a shame that unemployed people who are milking the system and illegals are going to get health insurance. But I guess this is the O'Dumbass way of life. Wonder what O'Dumbass is going to do next? Maybe invite Bin Laden and the rest of his posse over to the White House for Thanksgiving dinner and of course drink some beer with O'Dumbass.

I'm not in favor of the bill but the ironic thing is that if illegal aliens got health insurance and had to pay for it, that would probably be fairer than what we have right now. Right now, they don't pay for insurance and they get free medical care. My housekeeper had colon cancer several years ago before I knew her. She had no insurance and she got totally free treatment.

Do you know what most illegal aliens do right now if they get sick? They go to the emergency room and get free treatment. Emergency rooms can't turn anyone down.

If they're going to get free treatment, they should at least have to pay something into the system.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm not in favor of the bill but the ironic thing is that if illegal aliens got health insurance and had to pay for it, that would probably be fairer than what we have right now. Right now, they don't pay for insurance and they get free medical care. My housekeeper had colon cancer several years ago before I knew her. She had no insurance and she got totally free treatment.

Do you know what most illegal aliens do right now if they get sick? They go to the emergency room and get free treatment. Emergency rooms can't turn anyone down.

If they're going to get free treatment, they should at least have to pay something into the system.

it might cost some people nothing, but that care is far from free. it's why the rest of us pay $400-500 for an e.r. visit. it's also why i do my best not to go to the e.r. when tony broke his heel we went to our doctor since we knew he had an x-ray machine, and that the hospital here couldn't do a thing for him if it was broken. no ortho on staff, they'd have sent us elsewhere. when my oldest broke his arm, they said yep, it's broken-where do you want to go? and then they charged more for their e.r. then the hospital did that actually treated him! it's one hell of a system.

and yeah, obama says no coverage for illegals, but as you say, they'd just go to the e.r. you may as well allow them copays for the doctors, it would be cheaper that way.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm not in favor of the bill but the ironic thing is that if illegal aliens got health insurance and had to pay for it, that would probably be fairer than what we have right now. Right now, they don't pay for insurance and they get free medical care. My housekeeper had colon cancer several years ago before I knew her. She had no insurance and she got totally free treatment.

Do you know what most illegal aliens do right now if they get sick? They go to the emergency room and get free treatment. Emergency rooms can't turn anyone down.

If they're going to get free treatment, they should at least have to pay something into the system.

I will admit you raise a good point. Getting something is better than getting nothing. Do you really think an illegal alien deserves to have same benefits as an American citizen?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Next week all the closet communists will be pushing the house to pass their latest debacle of a "health care" bill.

Here's a link where one congresswoman in the opposition talks about what's about to happen to all of us should it pass:

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/03/...n-health-care/

If you want the pro-socialist position, turn on any TV station except Fox News. The most bold socialists can be found on MSNBC...Chris Matthews and Keith Ogreman easily will shovel all the pro Big Brother commentary you can stand.

do you know what socialism is? i laugh at people with the "socialism" craze, thats the new buzz word to scare people. whether it passes or not its not socialism. one moron hears another one cry socialism and that must be it. you can borrow my copy of das kapital by karl marx and find out what it really is. surplus value is profits and profits are not allowed in socialism. in other words the state owns all business. thats socialism. when we get anywhere close to that i'll let you know. i'm kind of getting tired of the "we are all going to be commies talk" from people that don't have a clue what it is. its called reading you should really try it sometime. instead of listening to the fools on tv. our economy is modeled after adam smith not karl marx for your information.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

do you know what socialism is? i laugh at people with the "socialism" craze, thats the new buzz word to scare people. whether it passes or not its not socialism. one moron hears another one cry socialism and that must be it. you can borrow my copy of das kapital by karl marx and find out what it really is. surplus value is profits and profits are not allowed in socialism. in other words the state owns all business. thats socialism. when we get anywhere close to that i'll let you know. i'm kind of getting tired of the "we are all going to be commies talk" from people that don't have a clue what it is. its called reading you should really try it sometime. instead of listening to the fools on tv. our economy is modeled after adam smith not karl marx for your information.

when your combined total taxes; income, sales, property and all the licenses needed exceeds 50% of your income you're working for the government 'redistribution program' no matter what you want to call it. Chicago is becoming occupied as the govt. owned/built highway known as the Skyway has been leased to a French conglomerate and the city's parking meters to a german company. Now they're talking about bringing in a foreign company to sell water to us out of our lake purified and pumped by our equipment. That's not socialism that's occupation!

[Cannon Shell]

Genuine risk-Why do you think that your friend with the bum knee will be treated any better in a govt run system?

Riot- Real tort reform would put your own personal legal situation in much better standing.

BWS-Comparing abortion and diabetes is a real stretch considering how one is a lifetime health issue complicated by several different variables and the other is generally a one-time lifestyle choice.

If abortion is considered an elective surgery in the vast majority of cases, why would it be covered by a basic coverage program that the govt would be providing?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Riot- Real tort reform would put your own personal legal situation in much better standing.

Naw. Better would be consumer protections so that I don't have to sue an insurance company I've had for years because they told the doctor and hospital that I was covered for a procedure, then six months later they changed their minds and told the hospital they wouldn't pay for it.

My procedure wouldn't be scheduled by either the doctor or the hospital until they got approval from my insurance company that it was covered. The insurance company approved it prior to the procedure.

Tort reform has nothing to do with it. I'm not trying to recover damages for anything.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say your health insurance is with Anthem.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

BWS-Comparing abortion and diabetes is a real stretch considering how one is a lifetime health issue complicated by several different variables and the other is generally a one-time lifestyle choice.

The point is the same in all the situations I listed. If you don't want to talk about people who don't control their potential to get diabetes by having a proper diet, exercise, etc, then talk about prenatal care. Talk about someone with a carpentry or interior improvement hobby that involves a saw that cuts off their finger on accident.

The latter two are certainly "lifestyle choices" that lead to people needing insurance companies to pay for them, but if you ask me, the care involved in having a baby and getting your finger reattached is totally elective.

[Riot]

Politico reports that the Republican National Committee employee health insurance through Cigna has offered elective abortion since 1991. The company says they could of opted out, but chose not to.

The RNC is rushing to ... change that now.