Standard and Poor's downgrades US to AA+ - Page 6

joeydb · #**101** 08-09-2011, 01:24 PM

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Good luck with that because the world which you want (no Welfare, self directed SS) you may get plenty of chances to pull the trigger as those ill prepared as Coach would say "Go Primal".

Now who is going to pay for the increased Police presence and jails in your Utopia?

So at least you admit that it's blood money paid to a collection of thugs.

I'm so glad FDR and Lyndon Johnson built this monstrosity.

jms62 · #**102** 08-09-2011, 01:29 PM

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So at least you admit that it's blood money paid to a collection of thugs.

I'm so glad FDR and Lyndon Johnson built this monstrosity.

Judge an entire group based upon the actions of a vast minority there Joey... I get the picture now, loud and clear.

Riot · #**103** 08-09-2011, 01:29 PM

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As the quote goes, "I've never gotten a job from a poor person."

Guess what? The rich have taken them overseas. So you won't get one from a rich person, either.

jms62 · #**104** 08-09-2011, 01:29 PM

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Guess what? The rich have taken them overseas. So you won't get one from a rich person, either.

joeydb · #**105** 08-09-2011, 01:29 PM

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Guess what? The rich have taken them overseas. So you won't get one from a rich person, either.

Why? Any idea why the jobs have left? There must be a reason.

jms62 · #**106** 08-09-2011, 01:31 PM

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Why? Any idea why the jobs have left? There must be a reason.

Couldn't possibly be Unmitigated Greed?

joeydb · #**107** 08-09-2011, 01:31 PM

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Judge an entire group based upon the actions of a vast minority there Joey... I get the picture now, loud and clear.

If what you allude to is correct, and "going primal" happens - which suggests violence - that is thuggery is it not? And unless we keep paying it happens - that is blood money. I was using your precedent as a basis.

Clip-Clop · #**108** 08-09-2011, 01:32 PM

Does anyone else in this discussion employ people?

wiphan · #**109** 08-09-2011, 01:32 PM

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Are you waiting for the Bumbling Bernanke Bonanza? Here come the pain.

At least they didn't say they were going to print more $.....

Riot · #**110** 08-09-2011, 01:33 PM

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Join the military or uhhhh thug life.

Me? I'm diversified and somewhat prepared. Working on cardio and strength because I'm going to need it once the s.hit hits the fan and the unprepared go primal.

Just make sure you have a current passport. You might want to leave for a few years.

joeydb · #**111** 08-09-2011, 01:35 PM

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Couldn't possibly be Unmitigated Greed?

So they ALL, uniformly, showed "Unmitigated Greed"?

Or is it more likely, due to the uniformity of their action, that the conditions for making profit here in the United States was comprimised by unions and high labor rates, high taxes, excessive regulation, and the like?

Greed would be the pursuit of excessive profit, right? But stable and substantial profits at some level must be made if a company is to stay in business.

They moved the work to where it is profitable. It was that or go out of business.

joeydb · #**112** 08-09-2011, 01:35 PM

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At least they didn't say they were going to print more $.....

You mean "Quantitative Easing" ?

Riot · #**113** 08-09-2011, 01:37 PM

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The newspaper? You are in a dream world where the government creates jobs for people, see how that works out.

No. I'm in the real world, asking you where are all these jobs you say exist. All these thousands and thousands of jobs the private job creators have, just sitting empty and unfilled, because the record number of unemployed "won't adapt".

You say they are there - where are they? I'm sure the hundreds of unemployed at the local office would welcome your direction to them.

And BTW, the "government creating jobs" worked okay for FDR, didn't it? You know, that "Great Depression" that made our parents so tough and instilled all that work ethic into us?

jms62 · #**114** 08-09-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

If what you allude to is correct, and "going primal" happens - which suggests violence - that is thuggery is it not? And unless we keep paying it happens - that is blood money. I was using your precedent as a basis.

Very Nice back peddal Joey.. Verbal Judo.. Your point VERY CLEAR to anyone with half a brain (Nascar need not apply).

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Originally Posted by joeydb

So at least you admit that it's blood money paid to a collection of thugs.I'm so glad FDR and Lyndon Johnson built this monstrosity.

Clip-Clop · #**115** 08-09-2011, 01:39 PM

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Does anyone else in this discussion employ people?

I kind of thought that.

joeydb · #**116** 08-09-2011, 01:41 PM

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Very Nice back peddal Joey.. Verbal Judo.. Your point VERY CLEAR to anyone with half a brain (Nascar need not apply).

If you're reading anything into it aside from what was typed, I suggest you delve into your own dark thoughts. It's not a Rorschach test.

wiphan · #**117** 08-09-2011, 01:42 PM

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You mean "Quantitative Easing" ?

Yes so far no talk of QEIII, thank god

Clip-Clop · #**118** 08-09-2011, 01:42 PM

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No. I'm in the real world, asking you where are all these jobs you say exist. All these thousands and thousands of jobs the private job creators have, just sitting empty and unfilled, because the record number of unemployed "won't adapt".

You say they are there - where are they? I'm sure the hundreds of unemployed at the local office would welcome your direction to them.

And BTW, the "government creating jobs" worked okay for FDR, didn't it? You know, that "Great Depression" that made our parents so tough and instilled all that work ethic into us?

Grandparents for me actually. FDR was dealing with a completely different economic scenario and breed of American than we have today. The sense of entitlement that has imprinted itself on the psyche of the modern resident of this country is absolutely embarrassing.

jms62 · #**119** 08-09-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

So they ALL, uniformly, showed "Unmitigated Greed"?

Or is it more likely, due to the uniformity of their action, that the conditions for making profit here in the United States was comprimised by unions and high labor rates, high taxes, excessive regulation, and the like?

Greed would be the pursuit of excessive profit, right? But stable and substantial profits at some level must be made if a company is to stay in business.

They moved the work to where it is profitable. It was that or go out of business.

Clueless.... How is that strategy of "Moving Work where it is profitable" working out for the economy now Joey? How is it working out for the housing recovery Joey? High Taxes Joey? Most pay NONE... Corporations have a duty to employ citizens of the country in which they operate.

jms62 · #**120** 08-09-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Grandparents for me actually. FDR was dealing with a completely different economic scenario and breed of American than we have today. The sense of entitlement that has imprinted itself on the psyche of the modern resident of this country is absolutely embarrassing.

The difference is they knew when the economy turned around the jobs would come back... We don't have that today.. Too many people for far too few jobs. London is our future and it will happen sooner rather than later.