Tea Party kicks Boehner in the teeth - again

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Remember riot being dumb or uneducated does not take away your right to vote. That is a constitutional right. If there was an IQ test or a knowledge test prior to being allowed to vote your right we would not be here right now and OBAMA would not be president.

Thank goodness there isn't a spelling test for you, hum?

[paulo537]

[quote=Riot;795020]

do not stop spending in a slow recovery or recession - unless you want a depression. QUOTE]

Who says anyone will stop spending. Your inability to understand is amazing. The point is simple, stop spending MORE.

You really, truly don't get it.

You write junk like building new railroads will help. Are you insane? Do you know how many agencies and hands that money will go through before anyone gets a good train ride? It will never happen.

You must have family money. No one spends money like a bona fide limousine liberal.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Riot believes in the government creating jobs with more government spending. Debt is no big deal. We need rail projects, more government spending to keep the economy going. The economy will never fix itself. We need to the government to fix it. We will let someone else worry about the debt problems we create today. It is the american way or at least was up until most people woke up a few years ago. Take money from the wealthy and create more government albeit temporary jobs.

Yes, I most certainly do believe in the government creating jobs. Money is the cheapest it's been right now, the government should issue bonds and institute a massive infrastructure jobs bill. The infrastructure has to be repaired, better to do it with cheap dollars rather than expensive in the future. Oh, yeah, and that putting millions back to work would be cool, too

And there is nothing wrong with temporary jobs during a recession. It keeps money in people's pockets, keeps businesses from going out of business, etc.

I never said "debt is no big deal" - that's your silly saying. We worry about the debt problems after our economy starts booming, we have people with jobs paying taxes again, etc.

No - the economy isn't "helping itself", is it? The Bush administration oversaw massive tax cuts to business and massive job layoffs as money was not reinvested in businesses, but taken as inexpensive capital gains.

It is the american way or at least was up until most people woke up a few years ago.

Yes, "most people" woke up and discovered we were 1.4 trillion in debt due to George W. Bush and Republican reckless spending, while slashing our income by 1/4.

I suggest you read this article:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-on-obama.html

[Riot]

[quote=paulo537;795023]

Originally Posted by Riot

do not stop spending in a slow recovery or recession - unless you want a depression. QUOTE]

Who says anyone will stop spending. Your inability to understand is amazing. The point is simple, stop spending MORE.

You really, truly don't get it.

You write junk like building new railroads will help. Are you insane? Do you know how many agencies and hands that money will go through before anyone gets a good train ride? It will never happen.

You must have family money. No one spends money like a bona fide limousine liberal.

Let's get rid of all your snarky personal insults, Paulo, and your idiotic ad hominem crap, and see what you've written about the economy:

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Thanks for playing, Paulo. Why don't you join us later, when you have an idea or two and want to discuss the economy?

Oh, and regarding spending cuts? (not people spending, keep up here) I can only assume you have been paying zero attention to the last few weeks of debt ceiling discussion.

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by Riot

The infrastructure has to be repaired,

Says who?

What exactly is wrong with the infrastructure?

For that matter, what exactly is "the infrastructure?" This has always made me curious.

Can you explain this to us all?

Didn't we already spent a half a billion dollars on this stuff through the stimulus package? How did that work out for jobs?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by paulo537

Says who?

What exactly is wrong with the infrastructure?

For that matter, what exactly is "the infrastructure?" This has always made me curious.

Can you explain this to us all?

Didn't we already spent a half a billion dollars on this stuff through the stimulus package? How did that work out for jobs?

Oh. My. God.

God help this country.

[paulo537]

[quote=Riot;795025]

Originally Posted by paulo537

Let's get rid of all your snarky personal insults, Paulo, and your idiotic ad hominem crap, and see what you've written about the economy:


Thanks for playing, Paulo. Why don't you join us later, when you have an idea or two and want to discuss the economy?

Oh, and regarding spending cuts? (not people spending, keep up here) I can only assume you have been paying zero attention to the last few weeks of debt ceiling discussion.

Look, I am not stupid.

There is no debt ceiling discussion that does not pale in comparison to the partisan politics that accompany it.

You may very well enjoy going through life as a puppy who chases one leaf blowing in the wind until the next one grabs its attention but some of us choose not to do so.

That isn't my fault.

Two years ago, the stimulus package was "Vital for the security of America."

One year ago, getting any Healthcare bill passed was "vital for the security of America."

This year, it's the same thing.

Stop pulling out your hair and setting yourself on fire.

A deal will get done. that's for certain.

It's also certain it will be a shitty bill.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by wiphan
Remember riot being dumb or uneducated does not take away your right to vote. That is a constitutional right. If there was an IQ test or a knowledge test prior to being allowed to vote your right we would not be here right now and OBAMA would not be president.

Thank goodness there isn't a spelling test for you, hum

Originally Posted by Riot

Thank goodness there isn't a spelling test for you, hum?

What was the spelling error in the above statement?

[Riot]

[quote=paulo537;795028]

Originally Posted by Riot

Look, I am not stupid.

There is no debt ceiling discussion that does not pale in comparison to the partisan politics that accompany it.

You may very well enjoy going through life as a puppy who chases one leaf blowing in the wind until the next one grabs its attention but some of us choose not to do so.

That isn't my fault.

Two years ago, the stimulus package was "Vital for the security of America."

One year ago, getting any Healthcare bill passed was "vital for the security of America."

This year, it's the same thing.

Stop pulling out your hair and setting yourself on fire.

A deal will get done. that's for certain.

It's also certain it will be a shitty bill.

You just can't help yourself, huh? Okay, let's discuss our economy and political world like you do!

You may enjoy going through life as someone who is incredibly ignorant and superficial, but some of us choose not to be so. Your teen-aged, "I hate everyone, teh government all sux!" angst surely makes yourself feel better, and obviously self-rightously smug, but doesn't really move the country forward.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Originally Posted by wiphan
Remember riot being dumb or uneducated does not take away your right to vote. That is a constitutional right. If there was an IQ test or a knowledge test prior to being allowed to vote your right we would not be here right now and OBAMA would not be president.

Thank goodness there isn't a spelling test for you, hum





What was the spelling error in the above statement?

Your right if there was a an IQ test or a knowledge test prior to be allowed to vote your right Palin wouldn't have been allowed to vote.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, I most certainly do believe in the government creating jobs. Money is the cheapest it's been right now, the government should issue bonds and institute a massive infrastructure jobs bill. The infrastructure has to be repaired, better to do it with cheap dollars rather than expensive in the future. Oh, yeah, and that putting millions back to work would be cool, too

And there is nothing wrong with temporary jobs during a recession. It keeps money in people's pockets, keeps businesses from going out of business, etc.

I never said "debt is no big deal" - that's your silly saying. We worry about the debt problems after our economy starts booming, we have people with jobs paying taxes again, etc.

No - the economy isn't "helping itself", is it? The Bush administration oversaw massive tax cuts to business and massive job layoffs as money was not reinvested in businesses, but taken as inexpensive capital gains.



Yes, "most people" woke up and discovered we were 1.4 trillion in debt due to George W. Bush and Republican reckless spending, while slashing our income by 1/4.

I suggest you read this article:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-on-obama.html

We have a fundamental difference of opinion. You believe the government should create jobs. I believe in less government. I do not believe we need the government to create jobs. If the banking world wasn't so scared of the current government oversight and actually took on a slight bit of risk the economy would be just fine by itself, however that is not the case currently. People did not wake up because of the spending by Bush and the republicans people woke up when they realized that their home was no longer their piggy bank. People actually decided to save $ instead of spending more than they brought in. A lesson that washington needs to now learn. It can't change over night but we have to start somewhere...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

We have a fundamental difference of opinion. You believe the government should create jobs. I believe in less government. I do not believe we need the government to create jobs. If the banking world wasn't so scared of the current government oversight and actually took on a slight bit of risk the economy would be just fine by itself, however that is not the case currently. People did not wake up because of the spending by Bush and the republicans people woke up when they realized that their home was no longer their piggy bank. People actually decided to save $ instead of spending more than they brought in. A lesson that washington needs to now learn. It can't change over night but we have to start somewhere...

Why do you think there was not massive economic growth over the Bush administration? Let's just look at the first six years or so.

There were massive tax cuts, massive business incentives, wars (face it, wars provide economic incentives). There is no denying that the government was extremely "business friendly".

What was keeping business contracting and losing hundreds of thousands of jobs in that environment?

Our income, before the Presidential election of 2008 even happened, dropped to only 15% or so of our GDP, when it always had been 18-20%.

In the late 1950's, government-sponsored education and the concept of the mortgage allowed thousands of former GI's to get education and buy a first house in the suburbs. In the late 1960's, in order to keep up, they sent the wife to work and get a second income. In the 1990's, they second-mortgaged and took money out of the house for disposable goods. You are right, a lot of the slow recession is because the middle class and lower classes are plumb out of cash to spend at this point in time. And there's hardly a middle class left. But that didn't cause our recession, although it's contributing to the slow recovery. The middle and lower class are not currently sitting on millions in savings, preventing recovery.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your right if there was a an IQ test or a knowledge test prior to be allowed to vote your right Palin wouldn't have been allowed to vote.

Still waiting for my spelling error that u called me out on.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Still waiting for my spelling error that u called me out on.

You are.
You're.
Your.

N I only clld u out kze u brought it up firzt

Remember riot being dumb or uneducated does not take away your right to vote. That is a constitutional right. If there was an IQ test or a knowledge test prior to being allowed to vote your right we would not be here right now and OBAMA would not be president.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are.
You're.
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N I only clld u out kze u brought it up firzt

Technically that is a gramatical error and not a spelling error

[bigrun]

Most common misused words....maybe not here but other forums..

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[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why do you think there was not massive economic growth over the Bush administration? Let's just look at the first six years or so.

There were massive tax cuts, massive business incentives, wars (face it, wars provide economic incentives). There is no denying that the government was extremely "business friendly".

What was keeping business contracting and losing hundreds of thousands of jobs in that environment?

Our income, before the Presidential election of 2008 even happened, dropped to only 15% or so of our GDP, when it always had been 18-20%.

In the late 1950's, government-sponsored education and the concept of the mortgage allowed thousands of former GI's to get education and buy a first house in the suburbs. In the late 1960's, in order to keep up, they sent the wife to work and get a second income. In the 1990's, they second-mortgaged and took money out of the house for disposable goods. You are right, a lot of the slow recession is because the middle class and lower classes are plumb out of cash to spend at this point in time. And there's hardly a middle class left. But that didn't cause our recession, although it's contributing to the slow recovery. The middle and lower class are not currently sitting on millions in savings, preventing recovery.

The housing bubble bursting played a big part in causing the recession. People borrowing $$ that they couldn't afford to pay back, and banks loaning $$ without checking credit history (or ignoring it). Now our benevolent Govt. who says it can't pay it's bills, wants to borrow more $$ to pay it's bills. Social Security was supposed to be solvent for years to come according to the Dems. Obama says he can't guarantee SS checks will be mailed out first week in Aug unless he's given the authority to borrow more $$. Somebody is lying. Obama is acting like a child in a toy store who is being told to put a toy back . News Flash .. our credit rating is going to be degraded even with a raise in the debt ceiling. We have to get spending under control. Would you loan $$ to someone who can't pay their bills?

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

The housing bubble bursting played a big part in causing the recession. People borrowing $$ that they couldn't afford to pay back, and banks loaning $$ without checking credit history (or ignoring it). Now our benevolent Govt. who says it can't pay it's bills, wants to borrow more $$ to pay it's bills. Social Security was supposed to be solvent for years to come according to the Dems. Obama says he can't guarantee SS checks will be mailed out first week in Aug unless he's given the authority to borrow more $$. Somebody is lying. Obama is acting like a child in a toy store who is being told to put a toy back . News Flash .. our credit rating is going to be degraded even with a raise in the debt ceiling. We have to get spending under control. Would you loan $$ to someone who can't pay their bills?

Obama can't guarantee the SS checks will go out. Curious if the welfare checks will also NOT go out.

[dino]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Obama can't guarantee the SS checks will go out. Curious if the welfare checks will also NOT go out.

Riot is 100% right. The economy is great. The country is moving in the right direction and if you don't agree with him you are either a racist or just dumb.

Isn't this liberal crap getting old. Open your eyes.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Obama can't guarantee the SS checks will go out. Curious if the welfare checks will also NOT go out.

Sorry Deb- no more free stuff