Met Mile - Page 2

jms62 · #21 04-04-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, the first TC winner in over 30 years would definitely be worth less than the Derby-Met double!!

The fuking horse needs 4 months between starts and the first start is a gimme and you expect him to win the Triple Crown?

Indian Charlie · #22 04-04-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

The fuking horse needs 4 months between starts and the first start is a gimme and you expect him to win the Triple Crown?

No, I do not.

I expect him to win the Derby. I know he's good enough to win the Triple Crown, but I don't expect him to be in training by the time the Belmont comes around.

Doesn't change what I'm saying about him being more valuable as a TC winner vs a MM winner.

#23 04-04-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

The fuking horse needs 4 months between starts and the first start is a gimme and you expect him to win the Triple Crown?

It's not out of the realm of possibility. The Florida Derby was supposedly the greatest derby prep in years and look how it ended up.

jms62 · #24 04-04-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No, I do not.

I expect him to win the Derby. I know he's good enough to win the Triple Crown, but I don't expect him to be in training by the time the Belmont comes around.

Doesn't change what I'm saying about him being more valuable as a TC winner vs a MM winner.

He should win the derby IF none of the 100 things that could go wrong during the course of the race with a field size of 20. And yes your point is spot on.

RolloTomasi · #25 04-04-2011, 06:20 PM

The Met Mile would be a great "rebound" race for either Uncle Mo or The Factor after one or both tanks in the Derby. Worked out fine for Holy Bull and Honour And Glory.

Trivia:

Name the 3yo Bob Baffert ran in the Met Mile several years ago (may have been '93). I think it was unbeaten in 4 or 5 starts at the time (he wasn't unbeaten after the race).

King Glorious · #26 04-04-2011, 11:46 PM

I grew up watching 3yos regularly compete in the Met. I remember Gulch winning it (and running all three TC races). Holy Bull, Honour and Glory, Conquistador Cielo. I know there are a few I am forgetting. It sucks getting old. I want to say Housebuster and Dixie Brass.

RolloTomasi · #27 04-04-2011, 11:56 PM

The Baffert horse was Letthebighossroll. Kyles Our Man and Cat Thief were a couple of other 3yos that tried and failed. Williamstown may have as well.

RolloTomasi · #28 04-05-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

It was mind-boggling to me that Cat Thief was, if memory serves, about 5/2 or 7/2 in that race.

Him running in the race to being with was mind-boggling, too. His stalking style seemed tailor made for the Belmont. At the very least he could have been a target for Charismatic, who ended up on the lead early (not that that would have kept his leg from coming apart or anything).

alysheba4 · #29 04-05-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Well, it would obviously depend on who showed up.

If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

Maybe I would too in the Cigar mile this Fall but, not in May.

....luv the uncle. after he has his public workout this saturday, he will make 2 to 1 seem like a gift from god the 1st saturday in may.

blackthroatedwind · #30 04-05-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

If Twirling Candy, Apiority, Morning Line, Soaring Empire, Captain Candyman, Mission Impazable all entered...you would be betting The Factor and Uncle Mo?

I'm not sure I would be betting them, as they would be favored, but I don't know that I would be betting against them.

VOL JACK · #31 04-05-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure I would be betting them, as they would be favored, but I don't know that I would be betting against them.

I would...With both fists.

VOL JACK · #32 04-12-2011, 01:33 PM

Anyone heard if Twirling Candy is still shipping in?

Or did he get scared off by that monster performance in the Wood?

The Bid · #33 04-12-2011, 02:07 PM

Maybe a mile is better for Uncle Mo. That being said I don't see how any of the horses you mentioned would be up against it if they faced him in the Met. As hot as pletchers been I expected Mo to run his very best race.

The other 2yo have grown up and Mo may have just matured a little quicker early on, the Indian Charlies are generally precoscious. Let's see how the rest of his 3yo season ends up before we get crazy talking about him beating older horses when he was life and death to hold Norman Absobason, or whatever that horses name is for 3rd

VOL JACK · #34 04-12-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Maybe a mile is better for Uncle Mo. That being said I don't see how any of the horses you mentioned would be up against it if they faced him in the Met. As hot as pletchers been I expected Mo to run his very best race.

The other 2yo have grown up and Mo may have just matured a little quicker early on, the Indian Charlies are generally precoscious. Let's see how the rest of his 3yo season ends up before we get crazy talking about him beating older horses when he was life and death to hold Norman Absobason, or whatever that horses name is for 3rd

Well said, Popeye!

outofthebox · #35 04-14-2011, 09:41 PM

Looks like Smiling Tiger may be added to the Met field. Impressive in the Count Fleet today at OP..

blackthroatedwind · #36 04-14-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox

Looks like Smiling Tiger may be added to the Met field. Impressive in the Count Fleet today at OP..

His trainer said he was going after he won in CA back in February.

outofthebox · #37 04-14-2011, 10:05 PM

That's why your paid the big bucks! Always on top of things....

RolloTomasi · #38 04-14-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

His trainer said he was going after he won in CA back in February.

I thought the manner of his San Carlos effort was a bit of a fluke as he broke poorly that day, but it looks like the horse has learned to settle off the pace.

In general, I wouldn't think sprinters stretching out in the Met would be a good proposition, but he seems to be an interesting exception now.

At any rate, Mike Watchmaker seems sure to do a complete 180 with his "Watch" comment for the horse ("Doesn't seem at tops despite recent win").

NTamm1215 · #39 04-14-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I thought the manner of his San Carlos effort was a bit of a fluke as he broke poorly that day, but it looks like the horse has learned to settle off the pace.

In general, I wouldn't think sprinters stretching out in the Met would be a good proposition, but he seems to be an interesting exception now.

At any rate, Mike Watchmaker seems sure to do a complete 180 with his "Watch" comment for the horse ("Doesn't seem at tops despite recent win").

I loved that comment. The fact that Mike Watchmaker is paid for his opinion is mind boggling.