No Breeders' Cup for Rachel...

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by smuthg

there was not a horse in the world last year that was "better" than Curlin on "dirt".

.....thats an unknown, all i know is curlin....who was a monster last year just wasnt the same horse after dubai. he beat up on salad horses and he didnt run fast. i still think curlin was a fantastic racehorse.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

he beat up on salad horses.

What type of dressing did he use?

NT

[Travis Stone]

What is a salad horse?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What is a salad horse?

they would be a "toss"

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What type of dressing did he use?

NT

Paul Newman's. For the sake of nutrition, however, Jess opted to pursue fat-free philanthropy in the future.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I think its funny how everyone is on a Zenyatta versus RA kick when that is not even the issue at hand.

I don't see anyone critical of how screwed up a sport it is when the two best horses, who happen to both be female, can not even hook up on racings "championship" day, because of the surface.

People keep talking about slots, is that really the issue that the sport has, or is it a complete ineptitude to put out the best product for the people that truly support the sport, not people pulling one armed bandits.

you make the most sense of all of these posts. it has nothing to do with zenyatta or rachel. the sport got screwed with the advent of these ridiculous poly tracks. no one wants to admit it. horse racing was already losing its following and then this. then the "morons that be" run it twice at the same venue. just asking for trouble. i gaurantee it will be more than just rachel that don't show up along with the handle and many fans. i bet about 50 bucks on that crap last year. sure a bunch of turf horses will show up because they have an advantage, why wouldn't they? but for 2 years in a row true dirt only horses take the shaft. what a joke since most horses here compete for the highest purses on dirt and are left with the decision of going to SA two years in a row. the connections might as well be pulling the handle on a slot machine if they enter. now the sport is even more watered down and the results in the BC are about meaningless.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by rocknrowl

Sounds like he's affraid to face Zenyatta.
What happened to doing the "Sporting" thing? The sporting thing would be to run in the BC even if it's on Zenyatta's home track. If RA is that good she should have no problem running on synthetics.

When was the last time Zenyatta ventured outside of the sunthetic surface/Bute filled state of California?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by JJP

When was the last time Zenyatta ventured outside of the sunthetic surface/Bute filled state of California?

when you run in the breeders cup you are not ducking anyone.

[JJP]

What about all the races BEFORE the Breeders Cup? How about if a horse runs in the BC "Dirt" Mile to avoid runners in the Classic? How about a top turf filly who runs in the BC Turf Distaff as opposed to the BC Turf? Or the juvenile who runs in the turf race instead of the dirt juvenile? It still can happen. Even in the Breeders Cup.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by JJP

What about all the races BEFORE the Breeders Cup? How about if a horse runs in the BC "Dirt" Mile to avoid runners in the Classic? How about a top turf filly who runs in the BC Turf Distaff as opposed to the BC Turf? Or the juvenile who runs in the turf race instead of the dirt juvenile? It still can happen. Even in the Breeders Cup.

To me there are only 7 real BC races, winning anyone of those is special.

I wish she would run in the PC or HGC but the thought they should travel just to travel seems crazy to me, especially to run against fillies for the same money.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

when you run in the breeders cup you are not ducking anyone.

bull crap, when the breeders cup is rigged in favor of certain horses. who wants to show up? like i said before it won't be just rachel. many other owners and trainers will feel the same way. the breeders cup lacks all credibility in my opinion. one year maybe, people will put up with it. after the results of last years events watch how many jump ship. the breeders cup and their leadership shot the thing right in the butt with this deal. no one going to care who wins at the rate its going.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

bull crap, when the breeders cup is rigged in favor of certain horses. who wants to show up? like i said before it won't be just rachel. many other owners and trainers will feel the same way. the breeders cup lacks all credibility in my opinion. one year maybe, people will put up with it. after the results of last years events watch how many jump ship. the breeders cup and their leadership shot the thing right in the butt with this deal. no one going to care who wins at the rate its going.

that has nothing to do with the horse or her connections, you have issues with the BC, as I do.

The best horses are supposed to show up that day, thats why its the year end goal.