Kenny Perry (Scuds Read This)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

That makes 3, right? Also he lost a playoff when he got a particularly bad bounce(into the water) off of a tree trunk.

[herkhorse]

He is definitely on a roll, is he playing in the Open Championship?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

He is definitely on a roll, is he playing in the Open Championship?

No...he's not going over and he is catching some grief about it too. He is staying in the States and will be in Wisconsin this week. The guy is an independent contractor...it's his choice as to where he wants to play.

[herkhorse]

I can't fault him for doing what he wants, but why not play the majors?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GPK

No...he's not going over and he is catching some grief about it too. He is staying in the States and will be in Wisconsin this week. The guy is an independent contractor...it's his choice as to where he wants to play.

Kenny said He'd feel bad about bailing on this weeks sponsors after giving his committment.....rare bird at that

[GPK]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I can't fault him for doing what he wants, but why not play the majors?

The major's don't mean that much to him anymore. I think it's awesome that the guy made 1 goal at the start of the year..and that was to make the Ryder Cup team. At the start of the year he was ranked #94 in the world and had 30 American players ahead of him on the Ryder Cup ranking. He has 3 wins, a 2nd, 3rd and has made 18 of 19 cuts. He is 2nd in the Fed Ex Cup points (actually 1st since Tiger is done for the year), now ranked #20 in the world and will be on the Ryder Cup team. Anytime someone sets a goal like that and achieves above and beyond that, is awesome IMO.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by GPK

No...he's not going over and he is catching some grief about it too. He is staying in the States and will be in Wisconsin this week. The guy is an independent contractor...it's his choice as to where he wants to play.

But if you want to be considered one of the best in the game Kev you can't be ducking majors don't you think?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by docicu3

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But if you want to be considered one of the best in the game Kev you can't be ducking majors don't you think Kev?

Different people have different priorities. He has said it before...he never wanted to be a superstar. Not everyone wants or craves the #1 status...and the hassle that comes with it....nor can everyone handle it. Fred Couples was clearly uncomfortable when he was near the top.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by docicu3

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But if you want to be considered one of the best in the game Kev you can't be ducking majors don't you think Kev?

Hey Doc: hope you are doing well...thought I'd jump in before Kev and just say that Kennys' priorities don't seem to follow the norm....If you're familiar with his life, he's a good ol boy who still races cars and coaches his boys golf team and is financially set....the rest is just icing on the cake,imho!

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by docicu3

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But if you want to be considered one of the best in the game Kev you can't be ducking majors don't you think?

also i don't think his game fits links style, but, kev would know better

he hasn't played over there a lot

i am looking at geoff ogliveve this week at 25/1 with no tiger as a underlay with good value to win


also congrtas to Paula on here win, but , Vicky Hurst an 18 yr old won again oon the futures tour, she is carving them up out there, and this week gets her chance with the big girls in Ill

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I think the PGA Championship is the major most suited to the game of the majority of pro golfers in the world. The Ryder Cup and the PGA Championship are not easily set up, but they aren't set up the same as the Masters and the U.S. Open. There is a reason why Rocco has had some success in the U.S. Open. It somehow suits his game(the course set up.) I remember seeing Kenny struggling in practice rounds the week of a U.S. Open. He was not able to chip out of the high grass close to the green(not at all.) Look at the courses he has traditionally done well at. He does well at the course in Michigan(The Buick.) The John Deere is not played on a particularly difficult course. For instance, David Gossett In 2006, made his first cut on the PGA TOUR since the 2004 season in July at the John Deere Classic in Moline, IL. Finished T75 at the 2006 John Deere Classic, where he won his only PGA event in 2001(I think he shot like -19.) Gossett made the cut there, and that's like the only PGA EVENT he has made the cut in for the last 3-4 years. He also does well at the Colonial in Dallas(short course.) He has had some success at Jack's tournament(that's probably the most difficult track he has won at.) He has had some success in Milwaukee That's not a difficult course(public course that short hittin' Sluman destroyed one year.) What major did Sluman win? Uh huh. That's the same major Kenny's game is suited for. What I am saying is that Kenny is a very good golfer, but his game is not as complete as to ever really be ready for these majors that he is skipping. The 1st 2 majors test all areas of a golfer's game. Kenny knows his game isn't up for that. I don't know why he is skipping the British Open, but it could be he simply knows he doesn't have the overall game to play some of the shots he would have on a links style course. This is not a guy who can recover from a poor shot hit into deep major tournament rough. Maybe someone strong like Andy Bean or obviously Tiger can recover with a miracle shot, but Kenny's week would most likely be done. Kenny contended strongly at a very difficult course(Players Championship.) I don't think he choked there. I think the difficulty of the course finally took it's toll. That's why I was confident he would be able to rebound(he was contending in a tournament he normally wouldn't have traditionally had the game to quite contend in.) When he got to easier tracks, he has taken off.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Hey Doc: hope you are doing well...thought I'd jump in before Kev and just say that Kennys' priorities don't seem to follow the norm....If you're familiar with his life, he's a good ol boy who still races cars and coaches his boys golf team and is financially set....the rest is just icing on the cake,imho!

It's actually refreshing to have you guys singing the praises of a guy who has priorities I admire such as his connection to his family and being a man of his word with his commitments professionally. I am all for that if that is what has him staying on this side of the pond this week.

On my best day as 10-12 type of golfer I have no clue what game these guys actually play but it's not golf as I know it for sure. Having said that I am sure you guys are right about "his game" and strengths not being "links friendly" but the guy is on such a roll it almost seems like his putter is nothing short of spectacular which to some extent is "always" what the game is about at some point in a golf tournament. The guy has been unconscious the last month and I thought it would be the time to push the envelope and see what happens. Who knows how long this putter is going to act like it's magnetized to the hole. I mean the guy was making 20 ft saves for par on a decent course last week like they were tap ins.

Certainly you want to applaud a guy who just says no to the spotlight but just think what they would be saying if he ever won over there as nutz as that sounds...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

He has been this hot before(2005 I think,) and I also thought that he was gunna win a major. He hardly gets on T.V. in majors(doesn't really contend much.) Don't know what he does to score poorly, but he struggles(except for in the '96 PGA....2ND I think.)

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He has been this hot before(2005 I think,) and I also thought that he was gunna win a major. He hardly gets on T.V. in majors(doesn't really contend much.) Don't know what he does to score poorly, but he struggles(except for in the '96 PGA....2ND I think.)

Was he really this hot in 2005 Scuds....he seems like he is currently dominating like only "he who cannot be mentioned" did during various parts of his career.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Was he really this hot in 2005 Scuds....he seems like he is currently dominating like only "he who cannot be mentioned" did during various parts of his career.

http://www.pgatour.com/players/r/?/00/19/45/results

(CHANGE THE YEAR TO 2003.)






Sorry,it was 2003. He won 3 out of 4( THE REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS 2005 WAS BECAUSE HE WENT NUTS AT THE COLONIAL, AND SIMPLY BURIED THE FIELD.)In 2003 he won 3 out of 4, and the one loss was a third in the U.S. open. He wasn't close to winning that. It was like a late sunday rally for scraps. He is a very good player, but very streaky. Kind of a freak when his putter gets going.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think the PGA Championship is the major most suited to the game of the majority of pro golfers in the world. The Ryder Cup and the PGA Championship are not easily set up, but they aren't set up the same as the Masters and the U.S. Open. There is a reason why Rocco has had some success in the U.S. Open. It somehow suits his game(the course set up.) I remember seeing Kenny struggling in practice rounds the week of a U.S. Open. He was not able to chip out of the high grass close to the green(not at all.) Look at the courses he has traditionally done well at. He does well at the course in Michigan(The Buick.) The John Deere is not played on a particularly difficult course. For instance, David Gossett In 2006, made his first cut on the PGA TOUR since the 2004 season in July at the John Deere Classic in Moline, IL. Finished T75 at the 2006 John Deere Classic, where he won his only PGA event in 2001(I think he shot like -19.) Gossett made the cut there, and that's like the only PGA EVENT he has made the cut in for the last 3-4 years. He also does well at the Colonial in Dallas(short course.) He has had some success at Jack's tournament(that's probably the most difficult track he has won at.) He has had some success in Milwaukee That's not a difficult course(public course that short hittin' Sluman destroyed one year.) What major did Sluman win? Uh huh. That's the same major Kenny's game is suited for. What I am saying is that Kenny is a very good golfer, but his game is not as complete as to ever really be ready for these majors that he is skipping. The 1st 2 majors test all areas of a golfer's game. Kenny knows his game isn't up for that. I don't know why he is skipping the British Open, but it could be he simply knows he doesn't have the overall game to play some of the shots he would have on a links style course. This is not a guy who can recover from a poor shot hit into deep major tournament rough. Maybe someone strong like Andy Bean or obviously Tiger can recover with a miracle shot, but Kenny's week would most likely be done. Kenny contended strongly at a very difficult course(Players Championship.) I don't think he choked there. I think the difficulty of the course finally took it's toll. That's why I was confident he would be able to rebound(he was contending in a tournament he normally wouldn't have traditionally had the game to quite contend in.) When he got to easier tracks, he has taken off.

Scuds the bottom line is if he putts he wins, last week he made everything, he has been making everything recently

GPK will tell you the PGA tour is a putting contest , whoever has the "hot blade" for the week will usually win

Kenny is a damn good driver of the ball and a hell of an iron player, i don't think it's the rough that gets him because there is no rough at the masters (or at least very little now), i just think the majors probably don't mean as much to him as say a tiger or a phil.

you have to be able to putt to win a masters or a us open and that is not his strong suit in general, if you could let Olzabal play his drive at augusta every year they would win just as much as tiger at that golf course

but i will tell you this and gpk will agree he is one of the longest and straightest drivers in the last 10 years on tour - check out total driving

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Don't laugh Kev, but did you ever golf in Wisconsin?

Who is that girl?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If he thought he could win it, I really think he would have gone. The Milwaukee tournament is even less important now that it's opposite of the British Open. It used to not be that way. That B.C. Open thing in Rochester used to be this weekend. Kev, what happened to that tournament? He wants to do well in the Ryder Cup. In the back of his supersticious mind, I think he is a little worried that playing a tough major might throw his game off, and he won't get it back for the Ryder Cup. This guy has one thing on his mind. He wants to be KING OF KENTUCKY(when that Ryder cup is taking place there.)

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If he thought he could win it, I really think he would have gone. The Milwaukee tournament is even less important now that it's opposite of the British Open. It used to not be that way. That B.C. Open thing in Rochester used to be this weekend. Kev, what happened to that tournament? He wants to do well in the Ryder Cup. In the back of his supersticious mind, I think he is a little worried that playing a tough major might throw his game off, and he won't get it back for the Ryder Cup. This guy has one thing on his mind. He wants to be KING OF KENTUCKY(when that Ryder cup is taking place there.)

i agree about that scuds, he will play the pga though , he could win if the putter stays hot

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think the PGA Championship is the major most suited to the game of the majority of pro golfers in the world. The Ryder Cup and the PGA Championship are not easily set up, but they aren't set up the same as the Masters and the U.S. Open. There is a reason why Rocco has had some success in the U.S. Open. It somehow suits his game(the course set up.) I remember seeing Kenny struggling in practice rounds the week of a U.S. Open. He was not able to chip out of the high grass close to the green(not at all.) Look at the courses he has traditionally done well at. He does well at the course in Michigan(The Buick.) The John Deere is not played on a particularly difficult course. For instance, David Gossett In 2006, made his first cut on the PGA TOUR since the 2004 season in July at the John Deere Classic in Moline, IL. Finished T75 at the 2006 John Deere Classic, where he won his only PGA event in 2001(I think he shot like -19.) Gossett made the cut there, and that's like the only PGA EVENT he has made the cut in for the last 3-4 years. He also does well at the Colonial in Dallas(short course.) He has had some success at Jack's tournament(that's probably the most difficult track he has won at.) He has had some success in Milwaukee That's not a difficult course(public course that short hittin' Sluman destroyed one year.) What major did Sluman win? Uh huh. That's the same major Kenny's game is suited for. What I am saying is that Kenny is a very good golfer, but his game is not as complete as to ever really be ready for these majors that he is skipping. The 1st 2 majors test all areas of a golfer's game. Kenny knows his game isn't up for that. I don't know why he is skipping the British Open, but it could be he simply knows he doesn't have the overall game to play some of the shots he would have on a links style course. This is not a guy who can recover from a poor shot hit into deep major tournament rough. Maybe someone strong like Andy Bean or obviously Tiger can recover with a miracle shot, but Kenny's week would most likely be done. Kenny contended strongly at a very difficult course(Players Championship.) I don't think he choked there. I think the difficulty of the course finally took it's toll. That's why I was confident he would be able to rebound(he was contending in a tournament he normally wouldn't have traditionally had the game to quite contend in.) When he got to easier tracks, he has taken off.

I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment, but let's not forget Perry was THISCLOSE to winning the PGA in '96 (at Valhalla, no less), Brooks birdied the 18th to force a playoff, otherwise Perry wins outright. The guy is an awesome player, and a super dude. I love a guy that rolls to his own beat. With Tiger on the shelf he might be the world's best golfer right now.

...and no bangin' on my man Slu. He won 6 times on tour, and finished in the top 15 7 times in the U.S. Open.