Florida Derby? - Page 3

#41 03-31-2007, 07:24 PM

Chelookee (sp) should run in the Lexington and then be the spoiler in the Preakness.

Kasept · #42 03-31-2007, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Jack Junior will also be toying with the idea of running in the Derby so that will set him further down the list.

TRIVIA OPP: Who was the last maiden to run in the Derby?

Hickory Hill Hoff · #43 03-31-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept

TRIVIA OPP: Who was the last maiden to run in the Derby?

The ill fated Nationalore ???

Sightseek · #44 03-31-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept

TRIVIA OPP: Who was the last maiden to run in the Derby?

hmmm, Not sure...three maidens have won; Buchanan, Sir Barton & Broker's Tip, correct?

Pointg5 · #45 03-31-2007, 08:33 PM

Scat Daddy is a game talented horse, I love how he's still not getting respect, leave him out of your Derby tri at your own risk.

miraja2 · #46 03-31-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Scat Daddy is a game talented horse, I love how he's still not getting respect, leave him out of your Derby tri at your own risk.

Yeah, at this point I probably will leave him out, but the way he has looked these last two starts you are correct, excluding him is definitely a risk.
Regardless of how he runs in 5 weeks though, he turned out to be better than I thought. He didn't just win a "prep" race today. He won a million dollar G1, and he deserves credit for it.

XIIPointStables · #47 04-01-2007, 07:20 AM

Just watched the race for the first time.

Very game Scat Daddy. Cherlokee didn't get the best of rides from R. Dom.

I can't see Stormello getting the 1 1/4 but he may be your pacesetter May 5th.

SOREHOOF · #48 04-01-2007, 08:42 AM

I think you're being too hard on Ramon. He saved ground on the rail, pressed the pace along side of Scat Daddy waiting for the rail to open up (like it usually does) just when it did, Scat brushed Stormello into the rail closing it off again. When he angled back outside he seemed full of run, closing well but he wasn't catching Scat Daddy. Scat Daddy runs just fast enough to win. I've been on his bandwagon since being at the Sanford and seeing his gutsy win there. Heart and guts wins a lot of races. Dominguez had the right idea, and seemed ready to get first run on Stormello. He seemed more of a victim of racing luck than anything. I think it only cost him second anyway. Scat Daddy raced 3 wide the whole way and seems very likely to get the mile and a 1/4. Go Scat Daddio!

Hickory Hill Hoff · #49 04-01-2007, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

The ill fated Nationalore ???

Was I right Steve???

cakes44 · #50 04-02-2007, 07:24 AM

That 57.3 workout for Adore the Gold a week ago really worked out nicely for him in this race. Has he finished yet?

ArlJim78 · #51 04-02-2007, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44

That 57.3 workout for Adore the Gold a week ago really worked out nicely for him in this race. Has he finished yet?

The workout may not have helped, but i am really sceptical about this horse running 9F or greater effectively. Perhaps the workout was too much, don't know for sure but i wouldn't have expected much better even with no excuses.

XIIPointStables · #52 04-02-2007, 09:27 AM

Looks like we can look forward to a strong pace May 5th, as Stormello is confirmed by Currin for the race.

lemoncrush · #53 04-02-2007, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

Looks like we can look forward to a strong pace May 5th, as Stormello is confirmed by Currin for the race.

Being a fan of horse racing and not in the business, I would never 2nd guess a trainer who has been around as long as Bill curin, but shipping from California to Florida for the 2nd time in 5 weeks and running in the FL Derby instead of running (as a probable favorite) in the Santa Anita Derby is mind boggling. The timing is better (4 weeks to the Derby) and although the field looks weaker, it would still be a solid prep and a $1 Million purse.
It seemed he was blowing so much smoke about a rematch with Scat Daddy and not thinking of the long-term affects.

Antitrust32 · #54 04-02-2007, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I think you're being too hard on Ramon. He saved ground on the rail, pressed the pace along side of Scat Daddy waiting for the rail to open up (like it usually does) just when it did, Scat brushed Stormello into the rail closing it off again. When he angled back outside he seemed full of run, closing well but he wasn't catching Scat Daddy. Scat Daddy runs just fast enough to win. I've been on his bandwagon since being at the Sanford and seeing his gutsy win there. Heart and guts wins a lot of races. Dominguez had the right idea, and seemed ready to get first run on Stormello. He seemed more of a victim of racing luck than anything. I think it only cost him second anyway. Scat Daddy raced 3 wide the whole way and seems very likely to get the mile and a 1/4. Go Scat Daddio!

The thing is, Chelokee finishing 3rd instead of 2nd (which we generally concluded he would have finished if he didnt have to check slightly and go around horses) probably costs him a trip to Churchill May 5th because of graded earnings.

lemoncrush · #55 04-02-2007, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Scat Daddy is a game talented horse, I love how he's still not getting respect, leave him out of your Derby tri at your own risk.

Scat Daddy will get respect on Derby Day.
He won't be the favorite, but I see him being under 10-1

I think highly of him, but he may have peaked last Saturday.
Interesting to see if Prado campaigns to keep the mount for the derby, or if he looks elsewhere.

XIIPointStables · #56 04-02-2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Being a fan of horse racing and not in the business, I would never 2nd guess a trainer who has been around as long as Bill curin, but shipping from California to Florida for the 2nd time in 5 weeks and running in the FL Derby instead of running (as a probable favorite) in the Santa Anita Derby is mind boggling. The timing is better (4 weeks to the Derby) and although the field looks weaker, it would still be a solid prep and a $1 Million purse.
It seemed he was blowing so much smoke about a rematch with Scat Daddy and not thinking of the long-term affects.

Agreed tenfold. The horse appears to be a hell of a fighter. The problem is I think Currin got caught up in the "fight" with Scat Daddy and as you said, threw out the long-term effects.

zippyneedsawin · #57 04-02-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

The ill fated Nationalore ???

I think that's right.. I was going to say Tincin, but remembered he didn't actually run.

miraja2 · #58 04-02-2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

Looks like we can look forward to a strong pace May 5th, as Stormello is confirmed by Currin for the race.

That is good news for all of the CQ fans out there.

FATPIANO · #59 04-02-2007, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Scat Daddy will get respect on Derby Day.
He won't be the favorite, but I see him being under 10-1

I think highly of him, but he may have peaked last Saturday.
Interesting to see if Prado campaigns to keep the mount for the derby, or if he looks elsewhere.

Johnny V stays with CQ and Prado stays with Scat Daddy, I expect 6-1 on Derbay Day.........Go Daddy Go

Cajungator26 · #60 04-02-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

Johnny V stays with CQ and Prado stays with Scat Daddy, I expect 6-1 on Derbay Day.........Go Daddy Go

I hope that's correct... Prado seems to be a better fit for him IMHO.