American Pharoah with authority

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I watched the race with my son and his friend, who are both 20. They have really taken to the game. They are excited about possibly seeing a triple crown.
I explained to them that I was 9 years old when the last time we had a triple crown winner. This is just one reason why the American Pharoah story is great. We are getting younger people in the game, by drawing attention to what greatness in this game really is. I'm looking forward to June 6th!!!! Plus it's my wifes birthday.

"E-street" will be hoppin!

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

I should have said Wayne Lukas got what he deserved for his ignorant reason for entering him in the first place.

What was his "ignorant reason?"

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I watched the race with my son and his friend, who are both 20. They have really taken to the game. They are excited about possibly seeing a triple crown.
I explained to them that I was 9 years old when the last time we had a triple crown winner. This is just one reason why the American Pharoah story is great. We are getting younger people in the game, by drawing attention to what greatness in this game really is. I'm looking forward to June 6th!!!! Plus it's my wifes birthday.

Young and old- a friend of mine went to Belmont with me for the first time last year, and bought a ticket for this year's a week ago, to make sure she could get in, regardless of whether there is a Triple Crown or not. She also bought one for her 70-year-old mother, who is coming from Pennsylvania, purely because hearing my friend talk about how much fun last year was made her want to go, too.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What was his "ignorant reason?"

Something to the effect (don't remember the exact words) of Lukas admitting and saying that Mr. Z has little chance running with these horses but he may be able to compromise one of them. He may be getting senile?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What was his "ignorant reason?"

Because you should keep horses in barn or in hyperbaric chambers until they are busting out of their skin and only run them when the stars are aligned perfectly.

In case you forgot Travis DWL is an all time great trainer that was just lucky his whole career and really doesnt know horses well...LOL the insanity never stops

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Jesus Christ. What the fuc1< do you people want?!

... and that pretty much sums it up. Well said.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Because you should keep horses in barn or in hyperbaric chambers until they are busting out of their skin and only run them when the stars are aligned perfectly.

In case you forgot Travis DWL is an all time great trainer that was just lucky his whole career and really doesnt know horses well...LOL the insanity never stops

Sure, one of the greatest all time but it doesn't stop him from being ignorant now and then does it? I'm sure many trainers think the same thing at times but they're smart enough not to say it out loud publicly. We'll, some of them say stupid things often.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

... and that pretty much sums it up. Well said.

Jesus thanks you too!

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Jesus thanks you too!

Sorry, I don't get it.

[DonGuido]

So on AP's lack of speed, I went back and found this, interesting . . .

Private clocker and bloodstock agent Gary Young told Churchill Downs' communications department he's been in those businesses 35 years, "and (American Pharoah) might be the best horse I've ever seen. He's simply like Michael Jordan and stays in the air like he did in his rookie year. He stays in the air longer than any horse and you get the feeling that there's not one gear left, but he may have two, three or four gears."

Could be he just uses enough of that "speed" to win, ya think maybe? That said, he may need overdrive to win on June 6 . . . let's hope he has that gear left.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by santana

It is a little surprising to me that you have something against one of the best trainers of all time.....

Sorry, I just don't think the connections deserve it. I like to root for the type of trainers like Michael Matz, Bill Mott, Art Sherman, Richard Mandella, John Servis' of the industry.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Arletta, ya knows I how much luvs ya but this may be the first time we differ widely . . . but that's OK. It's about the horse and horse racing. If AP wins the Triple Crown, who's picture will be on the cover of all the media/new papers (do they still exist), and magazines? I rest my case.

I don't hate the horse, just don't want to see him be the next TC winner. I'd rather another year or 10 go by without one than see them win it.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Something to the effect (don't remember the exact words) of Lukas admitting and saying that Mr. Z has little chance running with these horses but he may be able to compromise one of them. He may be getting senile?

It's not that he's senile.

He's an egotistical ******* that puts his pride first, before the horse.

I hope Zayats never send him another horse.

Lukas is very shortsighted and plays the short game over the long game.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

If the connections ever read any of your posts from Clyde/Mortimer/whoever the weirdo is, I'm sure they'd be THRILLED to hear of your distaste.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's not that he's senile.

He's an egotistical ******* that puts his pride first, before the horse.

I hope Zayats never send him another horse.

Lukas is very shortsighted and plays the short game over the long game.

Doesn't sound like the definition of "Greatness" to me. Maybe he is just lucky or it's all about the assistants who have gone on to be "pretty good" trainers themselves.

[Travis Stone]

Every spring the same story plays out...

One group always wants the other group to crown [insert horse here] as a superstar while the other group wants the other group to not crown [insert horse here] as the superstar yet. A third group wants themselves to be crowned because they spotted [insert horse here] before anyone else did as the next superstar.

But ultimately the economic engine in this sport - gambling - is best served by creating logical and thorough discussions about what produces the results in horse racing. Unfortunately, the groups above struggle to do this without insulting others or assuming the other group does not ultimately want the same thing.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Sorry, I don't get it.

Doesn't surprise me.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's not that he's senile.

He's an egotistical ******* that puts his pride first, before the horse.

I hope Zayats never send him another horse.

Lukas is very shortsighted and plays the short game over the long game.

It's not like he has too much longer to go.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Every spring the same story plays out...

One group always wants the other group to crown [insert horse here] as a superstar while the other group wants the other group to not crown [insert horse here] as the superstar yet. A third group wants themselves to be crowned because they spotted [insert horse here] before anyone else did as the next superstar.

But ultimately the economic engine in this sport - gambling - is best served by creating logical and thorough discussions about what produces the results in horse racing. Unfortunately, the groups above struggle to do this without insulting others or assuming the other group does not ultimately want the same thing.

Smartest thing I've read in a while.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Smartest thing I've read in a while.

Clearly you read wayyyy too much of your own material.