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Old 03-17-2011, 03:42 PM
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I must admit, I shifted from Republican to Independent about the mid-60's, once I became involved in the Civil Right's movement I found my beliefs far to the left of both parties. I had little regard for "liberals" cause I saw them as two-faced and cowardly (especially in the south), at least when I came face to face with the Klan, I knew where I stood. Not much has changed for me over the past 40 years or so...
Good point. Both parties were cautious in action on civil rights, even the Kennedy Dems. I don't know if the country could have tolerated more change, more quickly. Yet we have many of the same problems now, still. Remnants from that cautiousness of that era? From not being surgical and severe enough at the time? Maybe.

I think that people haven't changed across the spectrum, as much as what the organized groups have chosen to stand for - "this season".
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:56 PM
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Good point. Both parties were cautious in action on civil rights, even the Kennedy Dems. I don't know if the country could have tolerated more change, more quickly. Yet we have many of the same problems now, still. Remnants from that cautiousness of that era? From not being surgical and severe enough at the time? Maybe.

I think that people haven't changed across the spectrum, as much as what the organized groups have chosen to stand for - "this season".
Yes, many of the old problems remain, Dr King's murder slowed the train significantly but both parties, for all their bluster, accept that America has to be governed from the middle. Perhaps they are correct when many folks call the likes of Clinton and Obama radical liberals. I would give anything to see one real left wing President in my lifetime but I've long since accepted that will not happen.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:46 PM
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there are plenty of bad republicans but there are no good democrats

shall we look and see how the dem party has changed

is there nothing of the commie rat manifesto they won't embrace
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:27 PM
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there are plenty of bad republicans but there are no good democrats

shall we look and see how the dem party has changed

is there nothing of the commie rat manifesto they won't embrace
Riot, an excellent example of what I was saying....middle of the road Democrats are characterized as "commies". The conservatives come in all shapes and sizes, many are thoughtful and some...not so much!
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