Public Option

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Well listening to 30 some percent of the people. Just hope the 60 plus percent who don't want this passed remember that come election time.

He got 53.4% of the voters. Are you saying that 13.4% (of more ) of those didn't know he was gunna try to do this? I don't buy it. They made their choice. You can have all the carefully crafted polls n ' bullsit commercials you want, but the official poll was taken. The only reason we don't have health care passed is because of the built-in Conservative Bias in the basic design of the Senate. When you artificially inflate the power of voters in small population states, then you can't say "the people" spoke, because you've not listened to all the people. When we voted for President (he got 53.4 %,) he ran on this type of health care reform (stronger than this, yet you say they are against this.) We have had the poll. People just refuse to accept it. Each time he makes a speech, he needs to repeat what his health care position was when he got elected.These aren't people who care about the truth, they are constant distorters. Each day, every damn day, he needs to correct their crap. They aren't doing anything useful. Their #1 job seems to be to do daily distortion. So, though it is a nuisance, he needs to (each day, every day) answer their incessant lies, half truths, and distortions. He seems to think they will stop. They don't stop. They aren't gunna "come around," and help you one bit. How the fk did this guy not know this? Accept it. He gives people (in general) way too many chances to fk with him...The guy needs to forget Hawaii exists, and forget he ever took up golf. That sht has got to go.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's baaaack .....




One of my employees hurt her knee the other day. She and her husband could afford and would gladly pay a couple hundred a month for health insurance. Unfortunately, they can't get any for that amount in this state. She needs an ortho consult. She won't get one. Can't really afford the $60-$100 for the exam, and the $250 for rads right now (yes, we called around). I told her to e-mail Mitch McConnell and ask him what to do.

a dichotomy for sure.

sounds like you need to give her a raise!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a dichotomy for sure.

sounds like you need to give her a raise!

LOL

[Riot]

So you guys don't think that basic health insurance for young healthy people, who are willing and eager to pay, shouldn't be affordable and available to them?

You prefer these folks remain uninsured? That insurance companies just drop everyone who they have to pay out upon?

BTW, no, she didn't get hurt at work.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

So you guys don't think that basic health insurance for young healthy people, who are willing and eager to pay, shouldn't be affordable and available to them?

Uh, don't the young and healthy usually get the best rates in any insurance pay schedule? What's the issue here?

We don't need another "entitlement" or "unfunded mandate", both of which are terms that should be permanently banned from political debates.

The government screws up the many programs it already has. I don't want them messing with my healthcare. No thanks.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Uh, don't the young and healthy usually get the best rates in any insurance pay schedule? What's the issue here?

We don't need another "entitlement" or "unfunded mandate", both of which are terms that should be permanently banned from political debates.

The government screws up the many programs it already has. I don't want them messing with my healthcare. No thanks.

[Riot]

Uh, don't the young and healthy usually get the best rates in any insurance pay schedule? What's the issue here?

Because the "best rates" for the young are too expensive for many of them to purchase.

We don't need another "entitlement" or "unfunded mandate", both of which are terms that should be permanently banned from political debates.

Who is talking "entitlement" or "unfunded mandate" ???

Do you realize that the CBO has said that the House healthcare reform will cut our national budget deficit by like 8-10 billion over 10 years, in healthcare savings?

The government screws up the many programs it already has. I don't want them messing with my healthcare. No thanks.

You clearly don't understand what healthcare reform is about, what it could be. If you have healthcare now, the government isn't going to be touching anything about it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a dichotomy for sure.

sounds like you need to give her a raise!

She makes plenty for her job description. Her salary is definitely at the generous end of what her position can earn

Nope. Health insurance is just outrageously expensive.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's baaaack .....




One of my employees hurt her knee the other day. She and her husband could afford and would gladly pay a couple hundred a month for health insurance. Unfortunately, they can't get any for that amount in this state. She needs an ortho consult. She won't get one. Can't really afford the $60-$100 for the exam, and the $250 for rads right now (yes, we called around). I told her to e-mail Mitch McConnell and ask him what to do.

If she and her husband would gladly pay a couple of Hundred a month for health insurance why don't they put that $ away each month in an account for something like this. Oh yeah, that's called responsibility

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

If she and her husband would gladly pay a couple of Hundred a month for health insurance why don't they put that $ away each month in an account for something like this. Oh yeah, that's called responsibility

Do you have health insurance? If so, who pays for it?

There are "health savings accounts". But one can save all they want, but one nice big $50,000 incident (easy to obtain) can wipe someone out. Do you realize how many of the bankruptcies in the US are caused by medical bills, of people who are insured?

You know what I have to pay for health insurance? (after the recission my lovely ex-insurance company dealt to me) - I have been quoted by the only other two options (companies) in my state for $1200- 1500 per month. With many conditions excluded (some quite surprising). I have no other options for obtaining insurance coverage. That is nonsensical, and from a medical standpoint, completely absurd.

Have you seen what just happened in California, what an insurance company just did to individuals in one pool? It's outrageous!