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Old 11-01-2008, 02:31 PM
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the only thing messed up about him dropping his pants is that it was leaked out of the locker room.
you are right, that had no business making out of the locker-room.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:45 PM
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IF you just took a stupid penalty and a HOF MLB was chewing your ass, would you be stupid enough to mouth off at him once let-alone twice?i heard the SF beat reporter on the radio. he reported alot of laziness and "me first". davis is a major offender, singletary was not in postion before to do anything about it. he is now.
Fair enough, maybe the guy is a malcontent and he doesn't care about the team. Maybe Singletary is also taking a crack at one of the bigger/better names on the roster to serve notice to the rest of the squad.

As far as the other question goes, I think the majority of the players care. There is so much dedication that surrounds football, that I would think it would be hard not to care. But there is a handful of guys (and maybe Davis falls into this category) that don't give a damn about anything besides themselves. In the last couple of weeks I have seen Plaxico Burress, sign a very big contract and then miss a practice, a treatment and pretty much tell the Head Coach to go F himself. This while playing for a champion team who has a good shot a repeating. Pretty selfish, he bitched about a contract for the last 2 years and finally gets it. Then he starts pulling crap. I am sure there are many others.

Basically, nothing suprises me with these guys. They make lots of money and a couple of them constantly do stupid $hit on and off the field.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:03 PM
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Fair enough, maybe the guy is a malcontent and he doesn't care about the team. Maybe Singletary is also taking a crack at one of the bigger/better names on the roster to serve notice to the rest of the squad.

As far as the other question goes, I think the majority of the players care. There is so much dedication that surrounds football, that I would think it would be hard not to care. But there is a handful of guys (and maybe Davis falls into this category) that don't give a damn about anything besides themselves. In the last couple of weeks I have seen Plaxico Burress, sign a very big contract and then miss a practice, a treatment and pretty much tell the Head Coach to go F himself. This while playing for a champion team who has a good shot a repeating. Pretty selfish, he bitched about a contract for the last 2 years and finally gets it. Then he starts pulling crap. I am sure there are many others.

Basically, nothing suprises me with these guys. They make lots of money and a couple of them constantly do stupid $hit on and off the field.
that's why the steelers got rid of that piece of crap. personally, i'd like to see guys like burress, k. winslow, c. henry and pacman jones run out of the league.
a lot of the problem is those BIG rookie contracts. vernon davis is prime example, #6 overall pick.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:24 PM
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that's why the steelers got rid of that piece of crap. personally, i'd like to see guys like burress, k. winslow, c. henry and pacman jones run out of the league.
a lot of the problem is those BIG rookie contracts. vernon davis is prime example, #6 overall pick.
Obviously I am extremely biased. But Plax did play hurt all of last season, not to mention his huge game in GB when he was unstoppable. I don't condone what he has pulled this season, but I think the guy is a stud. I really believe that he is a top 5 reciever in the leauge. I just wish he would put his head on straight and get onboard with the rest of the team. There was talk this week of him starting to see the light, let's hope he does.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:35 PM
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Obviously I am extremely biased. But Plax did play hurt all of last season, not to mention his huge game in GB when he was unstoppable. I don't condone what he has pulled this season, but I think the guy is a stud. I really believe that he is a top 5 reciever in the leauge. I just wish he would put his head on straight and get onboard with the rest of the team. There was talk this week of him starting to see the light, let's hope he does.
the guy has talent no question, when his head's not up his rear-end.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:58 PM
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that's why the steelers got rid of that piece of crap. personally, i'd like to see guys like burress, k. winslow, c. henry and pacman jones run out of the league.
a lot of the problem is those BIG rookie contracts. vernon davis is prime example, #6 overall pick.
How can you compare Burress and winslow with henry and pacman?

Neither Winslow nor Burress have ever had problems with drugs or major scrapes with the law. Theyve had their issues, internal team issues, but hardly stuff that would label either of them bad guys. If I had a team, I would take both of those guys.

For the record, the steelers didnt get rid of Plax and they would have loved to have kept him. They just couldnt pay him.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:05 PM
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How can you compare Burress and winslow with henry and pacman?

Neither Winslow nor Burress have ever had problems with drugs or major scrapes with the law. Theyve had their issues, internal team issues, but hardly stuff that would label either of them bad guys. If I had a team, I would take both of those guys.

For the record, the steelers didnt get rid of Plax and they would have loved to have kept him. They just couldnt pay him.
the steelers wouldn't pay and he opted out. they were sick of his crap. winslow and burress both have had run ins with the law. winslow had the motorcycle crashed with no license or registration AND violated his contract.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:21 PM
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Singletary's shtick so far seems contrived to me. I could picture him rehearsing that post-game speech in the mirror at halftime. I think he's gonna be a horrendous head coach.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:26 PM
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the steelers wouldn't pay and he opted out. they were sick of his crap. winslow and burress both have had run ins with the law. winslow had the motorcycle crashed with no license or registration AND violated his contract.
He's a kid. Crashed a motorcycle with no license? Come on. Winslow is a good kid. He's opinionated and can be a distraction but he is a good kid.

Same with Burress.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:27 PM
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He's a kid. Crashed a motorcycle with no license? Come on. Winslow is a good kid. He's opinionated and can be a distraction but he is a good kid.

Same with Burress.
Really? He seems like an arrogant spoiled whiny self-entitled little prick to me.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:32 PM
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Really? He seems like an arrogant spoiled whiny self-entitled little prick to me.
BINGO! he can't carry his father's bags! and done nothing in the nfl. hard to believe his father puts up with it.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:35 PM
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Really? He seems like an arrogant spoiled whiny self-entitled little prick to me.
Those are flaws in personality...not charcter.

Im not saying he is mr wonderful but DD was comparing him to Pacman and thats an unfair characterization.

Maybe he's an ******* but he isnt going to use dope or get in trouble with the law.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:35 PM
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After watching Georgia i want to pull my pants down
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:38 PM
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Those are flaws in personality...not charcter.

Im not saying he is mr wonderful but DD was comparing him to Pacman and thats an unfair characterization.

Maybe he's an ******* but he isnt going to use dope or get in trouble with the law.
Point taken.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:40 PM
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as much as Zook has paid these guys, the Illini should be much better.
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Singletary's shtick so far seems contrived to me. I could picture him rehearsing that post-game speech in the mirror at halftime. I think he's gonna be a horrendous head coach.
He played all those years for Ditka... I think he's using some of Ditka's schtick. Contrived? I don't know... but it certainly got everyone's attention. We'll see how much effect it had by seeing how well the Niners play for the rest of the season. If he can get everyone on board, he's not a horrendous head coach. He might just burn out, like Ditka did....
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For the record, the steelers didnt get rid of Plax and they would have loved to have kept him. They just couldnt pay him.
This isn't exactly true. They made him a low ball offer that if he accepted, they would have been happy to keep him. In reality, they would not pay what he demanded because his character issues and potential for problems were not worth the risk.
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This isn't exactly true. They made him a low ball offer that if he accepted, they would have been happy to keep him. In reality, they would not pay what he demanded because his character issues and potential were not worth the risk.
Im sorry but your facts are wrong. They would not pay what he demanded because they had to pay ward as well who was a year away from free agency. The steelers werent going to pay two receivers that kind of money.

Essentially it came down to a choice between ward and burress and they chose ward. The right choice.
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Im sorry but your facts are wrong. They would not pay what he demanded because they had to pay ward as well who was a year away from free agency. The steelers werent going to pay two receivers that kind of money.

Essentially it came down to a choice between ward and burress and they chose ward. The right choice.
One of the major reasons they chose Ward were the character issues. They signed Ward the year before Plax could become a FA because they were more comfortable with his character. At that time Plax appeared to have the larger upside.
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