AZ Congresswoman in critical condition after shooting

[somerfrost]

Wow, I'm glad I'm not dead too! Ten pages and counting of the "blame game", useless babble! Hear that the Congresswoman is breathing on her own today, good sign but recovery is a long road, I pray she recovers fully and leads a normal life.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

A GOP Republican is going to submit legislation to make it illegal to carry a gun within 1000 feet of any member of Congress. I don't see the point, myself.

What about changing ammunition laws back to what they used to be, so you don't get to get off 30 shots in seconds?

Or maybe having to fill out a permit to carry? It's easier to buy that gun and ammunition than it is to get Sudafed OTC in AZ.

They are. Just not in N.Y. and that didn't stop the insane creep that shot up the civic building in Binghamton almost 2 years ago. 14 dead. Not political. Just insane. If you think your Govt. can protect you from crazy people and random acts of violence by passing laws you are very wrong. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Everyone should be armed. The good people still outnumber the bad by a large margin.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Wow, I'm glad I'm not dead too! Ten pages and counting of the "blame game", useless babble!.

Nothing like babbling uselessly about useless babble. Congrats!

[Riot]

[quote=dellinger63;741743]I guess we'll have to go with the facts. He did go towards gunshots with a gun in his pocket and not in his hand. Call me crazy but even if he had drawn and went towards the gunshots he's a hero in my mind.

To you it somehow matters and that seems even more odd to me now.[/QUOTE

Sigh. My head hurts.

It makes no difference to me in thinking he is a hero or not. Whether his gun was drawn or not makes no difference to me either (and he gets credit for being smart enough not to pull it out and display it)

I simply was wondering if he didn't have a gun at all on his person, would he still have gone towards shots?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The majority of your input in this thread deals with what the Sheriff did or didn't state you want to now magically transform and deal with a hypothetical?

You don’t find that the least bit hypocritical?

Sigh. No, Dell, I do not. You see, one conversation was about, "Did the Sheriff really say those words, or not"?

Now, I was trying to start a nice - but different - conversation with you about what different people view as violent (or not) rhetoric in the political context.

I have no idea how you think changing a subject is hypocritical. I give up. I will quote you at your finest:

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[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

If you think your Govt. can protect you from crazy people and random acts of violence by passing laws you are very wrong. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Everyone should be armed. The good people still outnumber the bad by a large margin.

I'm not ready to get rid of laws that say robbery and murder are punishable offenses, thanks. I do suspect there is a bit of a deterrent factor there.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Wow, I'm glad I'm not dead too! Ten pages and counting of the "blame game", useless babble! Hear that the Congresswoman is breathing on her own today, good sign but recovery is a long road, I pray she recovers fully and leads a normal life.

Well, some of it was trying to fight the "blame game", and "blame game" falsehoods, but what the hell

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm not ready to get rid of laws that say robbery and murder are punishable offenses, thanks. I do suspect there is a bit of a deterrent factor there.

I don't want to either. But if a criminal thinks everyone in a given place may be armed he (or she) might decide to go after easier prey. I know you aren't anti gun. There has been no uptick in crimes like this since the ban on these magazines expired 7 years ago. The "assault weapon" ban did nothing to protect anyone although I'm sure it made a lot of progressive politicians feel good about themselves.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I don't want to either. But if a criminal thinks everyone in a given place may be armed he (or she) might decide to go after easier prey. I know you aren't anti gun. There has been no uptick in crimes like this since the ban on these magazines expired 7 years ago. The "assault weapon" ban did nothing to protect anyone although I'm sure it made a lot of progressive politicians feel good about themselves.

I'm trying to remember the name of the movie, where the guy in public pulls a gun, and everyone (civilians, old ladies, etc) around him pulls theirs and draws down on him .... c'mon, what was that movie?

The only reason they could tackle this guy was the halt to reload. Everyone was still there. Thank god they took him down. Go, senior citizens!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh. My head hurts.

I simply was wondering if he didn't have a gun at all on his person, would he still have gone towards shots?

At least now you've declassified into just wondering. When it mattered well that was weird. And when you originally wrote, "What they didn't ask him, and what I would want to know, is would Joe have gone outside if he didn't have a gun on him? I would guess not. He still gets credit for being brave."

I took that as in your opinion 'Joe' would not have been so brave w/o a gun when in fact he went outside, gun in pocket, not drawn to offer aid so my guess would have been yes he would have. You however have always seemed to have had insight into the lives and thoughts of people you don't even know.

You maybe right. Not that it matters or is even worth wondering about?

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm trying to remember the name of the movie, where the guy in public pulls a gun, and everyone (civilians, old ladies, etc) around him pulls theirs and draws down on him .... c'mon, what was that movie?

The only reason they could tackle this guy was the halt to reload. Everyone was still there. Thank god they took him down. Go, senior citizens!

I remember that scene too. If he had another weapon he wouldn't have had to stop. 1 30 rounder or 3 10's doesn't matter. This guy was out to kill as many innocent people as he could. I can't get over that smirk in the mug shot. I do believe he is insane, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him not convicted because of it. I don't think that's right, but that's what it appears to me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I remember that scene too. If he had another weapon he wouldn't have had to stop. 1 30 rounder or 3 10's doesn't matter. This guy was out to kill as many innocent people as he could. I can't get over that smirk in the mug shot. I do believe he is insane, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him not convicted because of it. I don't think that's right, but that's what it appears to me.

Yeah, I agree that's a "I hear the dogs, they told me to do it" type of face. It's really difficult to get the crazies help. Look at all the warning flares here. "You scare people" isn't cause for a 3-day psych old, unfortunately.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, some of it was trying to fight the "blame game", and "blame game" falsehoods, but what the hell

you mean falsehoods like the one that claims that all violent images and gun references come from one party? only democrats and their despicable media lapdogs are playing the blame game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJOR...layer_embedded

[Princess Doreen]

Rep. Giffords doctor says,

"She has a 101 percent chance of surviving," said trauma chief Dr. Peter Rhee said. "She will not die. She does not have that permission from me."

A very good article on her injury, current condition, and prognosis.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41018273...th-health_care

[Princess Doreen]

They gotta change their name and logo - much too provicative.

[dellinger63]

I must have missed all the outrage when the following was released..

» Death of a President (2006)
97 min - Crime | Drama | Mystery - 21 December 2006

Years after the assassination of President George W. Bush in Chicago, an investigative documentary examines that as-yet-unsolved crime.


Director: Gabriel Range
Writers: Gabriel Range, Simon Finch
Stars:Hend Ayoub, Becky Ann Baker and Brian Boland


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

They gotta change their name and logo - much too provicative.

Aren't they French......Tarjhay!

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I must have missed all the outrage when the following was released..

» Death of a President (2006)
97 min - Crime | Drama | Mystery - 21 December 2006

Years after the assassination of President George W. Bush in Chicago, an investigative documentary examines that as-yet-unsolved crime.


Director: Gabriel Range
Writers: Gabriel Range, Simon Finch
Stars:Hend Ayoub, Becky Ann Baker and Brian Boland


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

You know that doesn't count.

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41027365...me_and_courts/


westboro baptist 'church' plans to protest at the nine year old girls funeral. how disgusting. i cannot imagine the pain her folks are feeling, and now these creeps want to make it worse.

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41027365...me_and_courts/


westboro baptist 'church' plans to protest at the nine year old girls funeral. how disgusting. i cannot imagine the pain her folks are feeling, and now these creeps want to make it worse.

They plan to protest all the funerals.