9/27 (SA): AwsmAgn, FrntRnnr, Chndelier, Zenyatta, Rodeo Dr. (G1's)

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pointman

Per Jay Privman on Twitter, Espinoza has been called in by the stewards to explain his actions yesterday. Wonder if Baffert will be called in too.

EDIT: Privman also tweeted that he spoke to steward Tom Ward, when he asked if they were calling Espinoza in, Ward responded, "yes, and maybe Mr. Baffert too."

I would make strong examples of both of them, but, of course, that won't happen.

Then again I am in the tiny minority that think woody stephens was an arsehole.

They are going to make the track super Fast on BC day, as usual, and give Baffert horses the advantage anyways.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

They are going to make the track super Fast on BC day, as usual, and give Baffert horses the advantage anyways.

I was thinking the same thing while running this morning. Maybe if we as horse players start pre-emptively bitch about how ludicrous the track was day 1 last year they will be shamed into making it fair

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I would make strong examples of both of them, but, of course, that won't happen.

Then again I am in the tiny minority that think woody stephens was an arsehole.

I agree, they should both be suspended. However, while Espinoza may get a few days since there is no explanation for his actions, I find it hard to believe that they will take any action against the untouchable Baffert. That is a shame since it affects the integrity of the sport.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by pointman

I agree, they should both be suspended. However, while Espinoza may get a few days since there is no explanation for his actions, I find it hard to believe that they will take any action against the untouchable Baffert. That is a shame since it affects the integrity of the sport.

well these riders and trainers are aware there are no more coupled entries and that since that is the case when there is indication of impropriety it is an issue.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pointman

I agree, they should both be suspended. However, while Espinoza may get a few days since there is no explanation for his actions, I find it hard to believe that they will take any action against the untouchable Baffert. That is a shame since it affects the integrity of the sport.

Bob Ike just tweeted that Espinoza got 7 days for it. Love it

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Scav

Bob Ike just tweeted that Espinoza got 7 days for it. Love it

I agree, but how about Baffert? He just gets away with nothing?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pointman

I agree, but how about Baffert? He just gets away with nothing?

I agree 100% but that would never ever stick, unless ole Victor was mic'd up

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pointman

I agree, but how about Baffert? He just gets away with nothing?

Are you guys loco?? Why would Baffert get any time? Did Victor come out and say Bob made me? Even if he did..... Who cares? Its the old if someone tells you to jump off a bridge thing, would you do it?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Are you guys loco?? Why would Baffert get any time? Did Victor come out and say Bob made me? Even if he did..... Who cares? Its the old if someone tells you to jump off a bridge thing, would you do it?

You are so predictable. Let's see if Espinoza keeps riding for Baffert. Cause, if ole Bob didn't instruct him to race that way, he should be pissed off at him.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You are so predictable. Let's see if Espinoza keeps riding for Baffert. Cause, if ole Bob didn't instruct him to race that way, he should be pissed off at him.

The point is who cares if Bob told him to do it or not? Victor is a grown man and a very well established jockey...... He did not have to do it even if Bob told him to do it.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Are you guys loco?? Why would Baffert get any time? Did Victor come out and say Bob made me? Even if he did..... Who cares? Its the old if someone tells you to jump off a bridge thing, would you do it?

Mafia dons use the same defense.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Are you guys loco?? Why would Baffert get any time? Did Victor come out and say Bob made me? Even if he did..... Who cares? Its the old if someone tells you to jump off a bridge thing, would you do it?

The bolded bit is the attitude in our sport that makes me cringe.

Maybe trainers should be held accountable (as well) for the actions of their jocks.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Are you guys loco?? Why would Baffert get any time? Did Victor come out and say Bob made me? Even if he did..... Who cares? Its the old if someone tells you to jump off a bridge thing, would you do it?

Unfortunately if you want to ride horses that have a chance to cash big purses you do jump off that bridge. Also Mike Smith won't say anything remotely controversial about the situation for the same reason even though he was put into a dangerous situation.

Originally Posted by pointman

I agree, but how about Baffert? He just gets away with nothing?

If Baffert gets days, he goes on vacation for 7 days while he hands his operations to his assistant. Whats the point of that?

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Scav

Bob Ike just tweeted that Espinoza got 7 days for it. Love it

hurray for the Cali stews